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An inmate who used laxatives to shed 31 pounds so he could squeeze through a hole in a prison wall had been frustrated by the indefinite sentence he was serving, a judge said Friday.

Robert Cole, 37, spent three days on the run from police in January after slipping his 123-pound frame through a 15-centimeter wide hole he had chiseled with a butter knife in the widow frame of a hospital wing at Sydney's Long Bay Jail.

Cole, who had been hospitalized for psychiatric treatment, spent three weeks scraping the brickwork near the window bars to widen the space, the New South Wales state District Court Judge Roger Dive said.

Dive sentenced Cole on Friday two years and two months imprisonment after he pleaded guilty to a charge of escape. The sentence was backdated to his recapture on Jan. 21.

When he escaped, Cole had been serving an indefinite sentence in the prison hospital after a jury found him not guilty of armed robbery in 2003 on the grounds of mental illness.

Dive accepted Cole was "very frustrated" at the time of his escape, as "he did not have a definite date of release and no apparent treatment plan."

Cole's sister, Australian television actress Denise Roberts, told the court her brother had "put on a lot of weight" since he was recaptured and sent to a different prison.

After serving his sentence, Cole will remain in the prison hospital until government authorities decide he is no longer a public danger.

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Liranan : LVL 2: VP 1.1: said:

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1109 days 10 hours ago...

Mixie is right, The Netherlands has many policies and laws which are unique and the 'liberal' policies that we have have made us more open minded than many other countries, and therefor the European Court of Human Rights is in The Hague (as well as in Strassbourg) and so is the International Criminal Court. I am proud of my country because we're not as small minded as other countries though I could pick many faults, something I won't do here.

However I do understand the guy and I wonder whether he escaped because he didn't want to be imprisoned anymore or, as the article says, he was frustrated with the way he was being treated and wanted to draw attention to his situation. It might be the latter as his treatment was (is) no different to the people helf in Guantanamo Bay. He was held because he was supposed to be incapable to stand trial and then he's been sentenced indefinitely and then not treated. I do understand the guy and if he's being treated now then he achieved his aim.

Human nature is human nature and some are acceptable and others are not. Sex is human nature and so is eating as well as seeking shelter. The struggle for these basic needs might lead to murder and eventhough the basic needs are normal, murdering, stealing, etc. are not. But as I said, his goal was probably seeking attention and not freedom itself and thus taking that into account it's not him who should stand trial but the people who were supposed to treat him. That is what would happen in most countries. You comit a crime but they punish your neighbour. In this case the institution/hospital was in the wrong and he gets punished for it.

Shadowsoul27 : LVL 6: VP 1.5: said:

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1107 days 10 hours ago...

I believe he should be punished for it, like anyone else who tries to get away from what they've done. If you run from the police, they tack on an extra set of time to your sentence because you evaded police. Sometimes criminals make a split second decision to leave when a police officer puts their lights on, and because of this they get extra time. If you fail to abide by the law, which is put into effect in order to keep peace and order, then the law must come down on you and punish you for those crimes. Laws aren't passed by the police. It's not like the police forces just go "hey, we want this law," and it's put into effect. It has to represent the people's wants.

For those places who do have those laws in effect that will not give extra time, then that is the perogative of the people who are citizens in that area. It is not, however, instinct to become free. If you are to look at Maslow's hierarchy of basic needs, which are the primal instincts to which humans follow, the basic, fundamental, instinctual needs consist of..."breathing, food, water, sex, sleep, homeostasis, excretion." The belief in freedom, the fight for it at least, is not a basic, fundamental need of human beings. If this person was being fed, which I'm sure he was, and if he was allowed to excrete, drink, sleep, maintain a healthy status(they have infirmaries in jail systems), and with the exclusion of sex, the man had all his fundamental needs being met. The argument that he was acting on instinct is therefore obsolete. If you want to argue that he wasn't getting sex, and therefore was a breach of fundamental drives, just look at some of the people on here...they probably don't get too much sex, and they're just fine.

The basic judicial system is put into place in order to define and regulate some of the higher needs of a human beings. The idea of freedom is apart of the higher needs of a human beings. Therefore, the punishments involved with a breach of what the people have defined as being the "set of rules," should be punished when done against, and perhaps rewarded when followed(something that isn't usually done, but should be looked into).

sierrabravo : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

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1102 days 5 hours ago...

What a fuckin retard. The biggest flaw in our country's legal system is the fuckin insanity plea. "SierraBravo, do you admit to killing those 23 nuns and 12 jews?" RAAAHHHH I COME FROM LAKE TITICACA! DO YOU HAVE TP? TP FOR MY BUNGHOLE? gimme a fuckin break. Send them to texas and ZAP'EM! ARE YOU THREATENING ME? MY PEOPLE HAVE NO BUNGHOLE!

77534 : LVL 3: VP 1.2: said:

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1100 days ago...

oh CANADA how i love this land....too bad aboot the country next door

Lukey : LVL 26: VP 3.5: said:

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1096 days 10 hours ago...

yuo suck

PainIsOnlyMe : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

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1083 days 16 hours ago...

Someone Really Wanted Out, Almost Wish He Got Away.

eveningstar : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

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1082 days 17 hours ago...

Imprisonment for the purpose of punishing an individual for something which cannot be proven beyond all doubt to be absolutely immoral is an archaic concept which leads to massive problems. Such as the release of sex abusers when they're still a threat, because they've "served their time" and have been sufficiently punished by having their free agency denied them for so long.

That doesn't help anyone. It doesn't help the community, because there's a predator back on the loose, and it doesn't help the criminal, because they're being locked in a cage for years with the intention of making them suffer.

The justice system should exist to protect the community, the sum of all individuals, by maximising free agency. If someone is threatening this through their actions, then they *need* to be isolated in some manner. They do not *need* to be made to suffer.

I oppose the death penalty because I oppose punishment, I think it barbaric. I support execution because sometimes it's the most logical course of action, the most human course of action, and the course of action which least damages free agency. Prisons are living Hell, no one should be in them unless they choose it over death, and only if they're a threat to other individuals and need to be isolated.

This man should not get more time for trying to escape, he should be let out into the community and freed when we can be reasonably sure that he is not a threat to the community, and not a moment sooner. Or shot in the brainstem, depending upon his decision.

I like what the Netherlands are doing though. Recognising what can or cannot be controlled through threat of punishment. Eventually they might, perhaps, one day, recognise that nothing can be controlled in a 100% predictable fashion through pavlovian attempts at manipulation.

hhsgiant : LVL 9: VP 1.8: said:

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1075 days 11 hours ago...

As a detention officer in USA i can say that if you run from the jail i work at you get 6 months and from that point of return you will be in permenent isolation. With no chance of visitations, comencary, or tobacco products. it isnt human nature to run from captivity i work with about 200 inmates regularly and none of them has even showed a sign they would try to escape inmates just wanna get there sentence over with and go home to their family.

eveningstar : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

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1074 days 17 hours ago...

"Human nature" cannot be proven or even shown to exist. What is irrefuteably true is that all actions are the result of value conflicts. People value individual items or concepts to individual degrees. All of this causes them to overall value one thing maximally: the freedom to obtain or work towards obtaining that which they value positively. Prison denies people the totality of this freedom, by constraining what can or cannot be achieved or obtained.

There are also temporal factors to consider, which is what hhsgiant is not taking into account. Those "well-behaved" inmates value future long-term freedom *in such a way* as to cause them to be willing to undergo short-term temporary incarceration.

In this man it is clear that in the immediate tense he was unwilling to wait, the craving for the expansion of his short-term freedoms greatly outweighed the consequences for his potential long term future freedom, if they were even a factor (i.e if he was aware at that time that there would be such consequences). You speak of self-control, of willpower. But what is willpower save for an abstraction of certain evaluations? The ability to override such short term drives in order to achieve long term goals, to obtain what one values in the long-term. The outcome of THIS meta-value struggle, the struggle between the values of values, would clearly depend mostly upon the circumstances and factors beyond the control of the individual in question such as genetics and environmental affects on their mind and values.

This cannot be justifiably punished out of someone. Nothing can be. Only observed, documented, discussed and appropriate measures taken to ensure the safety of the community. The community requires freedom, and thus freedom should be maximised.

JustSomeGuy : LVL 17: VP 2.6: said:

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1060 days 19 hours ago...

Coo story, terrible comments (excluding any purely informational posts or comments on the actual story). You guys just love to argue for the sake of arguing. The voting system is here to bury comments that the community deem inappropriate in any way. It's NOT here so you can vote down someones comments and STILL continue a 3 page flame war. You already shut him up, you won, go home.

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