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The Daily Show's evolution schmevolution week. This is day 3.

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SubtleVox : LVL 7: VP 1.6: said:

SubtleVox

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1252 days 21 hours ago...

Wow, suddenly I want to go to my nearest church and punch the priest in the face.

And am I the only one waiting for Lewis Black to Hulk up and snap John Stewarts neck?

masterth : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

masterth

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1252 days 21 hours ago...

"It seems to me that the Religious folks are not trying to prevent the Theory of Evolution from being taught, but want an alternative explaination also presented."

Are you mad??? many bible schools in america do not teach darwinism, and some only mention evolution if its to show its inferiority to creationism. Even in the uk, we are seeing an explosion of faith schools and these new 'city academies', some of which are run by evangelical christian's doing exactly the same thing, explaning evolution and then saying 'but we don't believe that' and teaching ID and creationism instead, but crucially, not covering any of the accompaning criticism of these respective theories, therefore making it seem to impressionable youngsters that evolution theory is full of holes, and the bibical version of events is, in comparision, flawless.

Religion has been trying to smother the teaching of science since time began.

And yes, carbon dating is not accurate beyond a certain period of time but uranium-lead dating method is accurate-its the method that clair patterson used by counting lead isotopes in igneous rocks, to work out the definative age of the earth at 4,550million years, a figure that still stands today, thus disproving that the world is only about 7,000 years old.

Every single person in the world should be made to read Bill Bryson-'A short History of Everything', if they want to search for the truth.

masterth : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

masterth

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1252 days 20 hours ago...

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

masterth : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

masterth

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1252 days 20 hours ago...

"This is one of the great social functions of science -- to free people from superstition."

"Science should be taught not in order to support religion and not in order to destroy religion. Science should be taught simply ignoring religion."

So why the hell teach ID in science-teach it in RE where it belongs

masterth : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

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1252 days 19 hours ago...

"It seems to me that the Religious folks are not trying to prevent the Theory of Evolution from being taught" hahajohnnyb


Robert Sherman: "Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?"

Bush: "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

— President George H. W. Bush, August 27 1987

"I think people attack me because they are fearful that I will then say that you're not equally as patriotic if you're not a religious person. ... I've never said that. I've never acted like that. I think that's just the way it is."

— President George W. Bush, Washington Times, 12 January 2005

Freedom of religion all right..... what about people who dont want religion, oh thats right "I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriot."

captainSKAmerica : LVL 10: VP 1.9: said:

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1252 days 11 hours ago...

did anyone ever tell you dont tell a lie? this is a perfect example of what happens when you do. You tell the lie, then try to cover it up by making up facts to prove your lie true, and by the time the other person finally calls you on it, they are far more pissed than they might have been had you told the truth. Imagine if the church conceeded that evolution was true. Idiots like them would commit mass suicide

DJBENZ : LVL 29: VP 3.8: said:

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1252 days 11 hours ago...

just my two cents.. cause i see most of the comments on here are pro-evolution rather than creationism or intelligent design. i deal with these questions all day and i actually love having the debates because it challenges my strength as a christian. i havent been the best christian at all, but i know whether or not my religion is false or not from personal experiences and from plain facts. lets take a look at the evolution side, earth was created by gases in the atmosphere etc, a big bang etc etc. anyone can prove that theory false like a two year old, all you have to say is "and where did those come from" over and over. if it came from gases, where did the gases come from? where did the entire universe come from? everything had to come from something. i personally believe that God created the heavens and the earth. he is the alpha and omega. a universe as complicated as this could only be created by something so perfect. if we did evolve from monkeys or apes, why arent there any skeletons of a monkey/human in the center process, and why arent we still evolving today? this is just the way i look at it, im not forcing religion on anyone, thats your decision. and to those talking about how unrealistic or ridiculous the pastors may seem (even though they dont display the entire sermon), dont judge an entire religion by ONE of the followers. were all different people. we all have our views on life

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oh and to those questioning the whole fact that the earth was completely flooded etc, why are there sea shells and other oceanic remains on mountaintops etc? that oughtta get u thinkin ;)

masterth : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

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1252 days 1 hour ago...

"oh and to those questioning the whole fact that the earth was completely flooded etc, why are there sea shells and other oceanic remains on mountaintops etc? that oughtta get u thinkin ;)"

you do not know anything about geology, or sediment formation do you?

Read a book and find out how mountain ranges were formed, that should answer your queries....
The Big Bang was started because of a collision between huge amoungs of positive and negative dark matter, of which the gases are a by product-whether its a repeating cycle of Big Bangs, or time simply started with the current one is still under debate.

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

"An atheist doesn't have to be someone who thinks he has a proof that there can't be a god. He only has to be someone who believes that the evidence on the god question is at a similar level to the evidence on the werewolf question."

WRCSVT : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

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1251 days 18 hours ago...

I think monkeys evolved from us.

DJBENZ : LVL 29: VP 3.8: said:

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1251 days 11 hours ago...

"The Big Bang was started because of a collision between huge amoungs of positive and negative dark matter, of which the gases are a by product-whether its a repeating cycle of Big Bangs, or time simply started with the current one is still under debate."

lol and where did the matter come from... if anything you will trace it back to energy in any form but that energy had to come from somewhere. if something is empty, it will stay empty unless you put something in it. and that something has to come from somewhere. its a never ending cycle that will always fall back to its original creator in the end.. God. Start thinking...

masterth : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

masterth

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1251 days 9 hours ago...

no, it seems that dark matter has always been there-the difference between you and me is that I want to seek the answer through science and logic-you just call what you don't know God, and claim that the absence of proof for anything else proves God, despite their being zero proof for God either

and by the way, might we merely be the science project of a super advanced race-why call the unknown God?

DJBENZ : LVL 29: VP 3.8: said:

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1248 days 7 hours ago...

lemme make this shorter for myself.....
http://www.doesgodexist.org/Phamplets/Mansproof.html
please spend time to read this^^ im not forcing religion on anyone, simply answering questions...
and masterth plz dont take it that im attacking you personally, your obviously an educated individual, just with different views on life than i have. im just speaking my mind.. religiously and scientifically

masterth : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

masterth

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1247 days 18 hours ago...

your arguments are maily metaphysical, they quote from the humanist manifesto when a proper defination of what an atheist is would be Atheism, in its broadest sense, is the absence of theism (the belief in the existence of deities). This encompasses both people who assert that there are no gods, and those who make no claim about whether gods exist or not. Narrower definitions of atheism, however, typically label as atheists only those people who affirmatively assert the nonexistence of gods, and classify other nonbelievers as agnostics or simply non-theists.

"Many people who self-identify as atheists do tend to share common skeptical concerns regarding the evidence (or lack of evidence) of the world's many deities and creation stories as well as questioning the goodness and morality of religions that have brought us such things as holy wars and inquisitions. Yet while some adhere to philosophies such as humanism, naturalism and materialism, there is no single ideology that all atheists share, nor does atheism have any institutionalized rituals or behaviors. Indeed, atheism is inspired by many rationales, encompassing personal, scientific, social, philosophical, and historical reasoning."

Thus, you can not base a rejection of atheism on the humanist manisfesto definition.

Secondly, the science is appalling-under superstring theory their where many 'Big Bangs' before the current universe and time did not start at the time of the current one-not all the stars where created at the same time so they have used different amounts of hydrogen, the 2% figure for our sun is inaccurate, Fredrick hoyle died a maverick, subbornly refusing to believe he was wrong, even when the student stephen hawkings famously spotted an error in his calculations that meant that his theory on the creation on the world was scientifically and mathematically flawed-whoeva wrote that is a typical example of usind descredited or flawed science to attack established theories that are so complex that most don't understand them, and therefore it is easy to critise using theories discredited in the scientific community or that are just plain wrong!

Seriously DJBENZ, read Bill Bryson 'A short History of Everything'-it has a fantastic take on all sides of the argument and has a lot of work done by creationist scientists such as Frederick Doyle, it will let you get an unbised version of the truth-its no good reading stuff on the internet for your evidence-there is no checking procedure and anyhting can get on their!

nice try though! :-)

BooYaka : LVL 2: VP 1.1: said:

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1243 days 23 hours ago...

I just wanna say, in regards to Ken Ham... Uh..., sorry, this is really embarrasing. I mean, being from Oz... We know what Queenslanders are like, normally they're quite harmless, even entertaining but occassionally one escapes and causes a shitstorm, such as Ken Ham, and... Well, there really is no explaination for it. We should have tried harder, there's no doubt about it. If we were preschool teachers, we'd be sacked for letting a kiddo escape and cross the road, and rightfully so. It's just been one big fuck up and now not only have we exposed the world to this tool, but he's even polluted the gene pool by having kids... We're really, really sorry... It'll never happen again, honest!

LeighCedar : LVL 23: VP 3.2: said:

LeighCedar

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1239 days 7 hours ago...

Djbenz,
Your argumet on "where did matter come from" can simply be counter by... then where did god come from... as you said

"if something is empty, it will stay empty unless you put something in it. and that something has to come from somewhere."

so then where did God come from?

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