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The beginning of the Daily Show's Evolution Week.

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Eman007 : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

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1253 days 18 hours ago...

I wonder what Jon Stewart Believes. I still say Christianity version is the most reasonable :)

reYKCuf : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

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1253 days 18 hours ago...

who can argue with that? Haha

hahajohnnyb : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

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1253 days 18 hours ago...

Leighcedar,

If I were to design a K-12 education everything would focus on philosophy, because Philosopy teaches you not what to think but how to think. The greatest mathematicians and scientists were also frequently great philosophers too. Newton, Einstien, Descartes, all published Philosophical works. People who have studied philosophy, even lesurely make better conversations than those who have not. Philosophy actually makes you a better rounded and even a more intelligent person, because you have learned how to think instead of just regurgitating information and opinions.

As far as forcing anything into the Bible, I guess we could but only if we were Mormons. Thing is..its not the role of public education to teach spiritual beliefs. I think that they should teach beliefs in things like fairness, democracy, capitalism, individualism, right and wrong, but if we began to teach state spirituality we would be stepping into the domain of the parents.

Yes, I am a proud provactuer of free market capitalism. I am a champion of individualism, and philosophically think of myself as an objectivist. I think that the greatest acheivement that education could achieve is to empower a generation of self reliant individuals with the knowledge and self confidence to to accomplish whatever they desire in this life to their abilities, without warping their individual spirits with a political indoctrenation.

I know that my ultimate desire might take time out of home-economics, and in the third grade they may not learn all the names for the individual parts of a flower, but they will know how to think and if their own curiousity inspires them to learn about home-economics or flowers then they would have the intellectual ability to do so on their own.

I would let them determine which ideas are dangerous, would keep nothing from them however taboo, and would damn sure never bow to anyone's political agenda whether they be right or left. No more stepping on a kids curiousity, because whoever says its not right.

Its so fucking simple, its stupid. Teach the kids how to think and they will naturally become whatever it is that they are supposed to become and live happy lives.

LeighCedar : LVL 23: VP 3.2: said:

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1253 days 18 hours ago...

I think you just summed up what we are saying: "Thing is..its not the role of public education to teach spiritual beliefs."

No ID in the class room. Unless we get to that Utopia education system you were describing. I'd be all for a freeform critical thinking school.


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Oh and I was just reading some older comments. hahhajohnnyb, Darwin was not wrong about the speed of evolution. Mutation can occur in one generation, but these are tiny changes. The process to get from one species or another takes many many generations and needs a series of factors (like genetic drift). After a number of generations, and likely a seperation of the two populations (so they don't interbreed) you get two distinct species.

MTHunter : LVL 27: VP 3.6: said:

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1253 days 16 hours ago...

hahajohnnyb, you are the only person I could ever say I think is smarter than me. You are a fucking genius. A lot of people I know think being smart is knowledge gained through reading and research. Anyone can do that. But what you said...

"We are all too stupid and ignorant to understand the true nature of existence. No one can understand God or the universe, but some people are compensate for their stupidity and ignorance by putting all their faith in incomplete science or Religion, this allows them to pretend that they are knowledgible and gives them a sense that they have some degree of control.

I am comfortable knowing that I am as stupid and ignorant in relative terms as everyone else in the World. Its the past-time of contemplating existence and reality, while trying to obtain knowledge that keeps me from a life of boredom. I like to think about God, and what God might be, and if I accepted a religions take on God, I would get bored. Just like I like to think about evolution and marvel that something as complex as life exists.

(And also everything else you said.)

...is exaclty what I have been thinking put into perfect words. You are a fucking genius. *clap, clap, clap*

FacelessSchmuck : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

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1253 days 2 hours ago...

It's not that creationism shouldn't be taught, it's just that it isn't science. It's theology. You don't teach poetry in a math class and you don't teach theology in a science class.

Now if you want to require that theology be taught in public schools, that's fine and I wish you luck in achieving it. Just keep in mind that, in the interest of fairness, you need Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, with maybe a primer on Zoroastrianism, Shintoism, and Pastafarianism, just to make sure you're covering other schools of thought.

ckyvick : LVL 16: VP 2.5: said:

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1250 days 19 hours ago...

question for Intelligent design-where were the dinosaurs on noah's ark??? next to the termites and the woodworm?!

HAHAHAHA what the fuck u retarded, they brought babies, the arc supposedly landed at a fairly high altitude, and dinos were either killed off and couldnt adapt, we have found FOOTPRINTS with HUMAN FOOT PRINTS NEXT TO DINOSAUR FOOT PRINTS, but you probably wont ever learn that in your school, also why do they still have supposed "missing link" skeletons n shit in museums, even after being proven wrong?!?!??!

justjewit7 : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

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1249 days 15 hours ago...

Eman007, Jon Stewart is Jewish, first off. Second off, the "Christian version" is also the Jewish version since it's all in the Old Testament. It is technically not even the Christain version.

masterth : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

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1249 days 8 hours ago...

"HAHAHAHA what the fuck u retarded, they brought babies, the arc supposedly landed at a fairly high altitude, and dinos were either killed off and couldnt adapt, we have found FOOTPRINTS with HUMAN FOOT PRINTS NEXT TO DINOSAUR FOOT PRINTS, but you probably wont ever learn that in your school, also why do they still have supposed "missing link" skeletons n shit in museums, even after being proven wrong?!?!??!"

awwww, they brought babies-how did the babies survive without their mother's regurgitated food or milk, and when the young of several dinosaurs weighted several tons, it really wouldn't make a damn bit of diferrence, what about inbreeding, and don't baby termities and woodworm still eat wood, and yes, we have found dino footprints next to human footprints- difference is that the dino footprints are dated 65million years earlier-minor problem there....

also, considering that dinosaurs have been the most adaptable species ever seen on this earth, lasting hundreds of millions of years-based on the fossil records we have, I fail to see how they wouldn't have adapted-crocodiles were there with the dinosaurs and they had no problem.

Lastly ckyvick, your argument is shit :-)))))

EntropY* : LVL 18: VP 2.7: said:

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1200 days 13 hours ago...

"hahajohnnyb" i wish i could write my thoughts as well as you, that's EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD SAY. Every last word has emphasized what i have contemplated and imagined my entire life.

I think there are many people who feel this way, but feel alone in their thinking because of society's frowning on philosophy or deep thought on matters, (all society cares about is getting drunk or high), and it is destroying humanity; because there can be no theological debates, no sharing of ideas, no growth of wisdom, no refining of ideas. So eventually they give up, who knows how many people like you have given up on what they believe only to go get arrested and thrown in a prison?

You sir, are a god among men for not only realizing and identifying what is true, but also for being able to write it; and not being afraid to voice it. I applaud, i applaud.

EntropY* : LVL 18: VP 2.7: said:

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1200 days 13 hours ago...

"hahajohnnyb" i wish i could write my thoughts as well as you, that's EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD SAY. Every last word has emphasized what i have contemplated and imagined my entire life.

I think there are many people who feel this way, but feel alone in their thinking because of society's frowning on philosophy or deep thought on matters, (all society cares about is getting drunk or high), and it is destroying humanity; because there can be no theological debates, no sharing of ideas, no growth of wisdom, no refining of ideas. So eventually they give up, who knows how many people like you have given up on what they believe only to go get arrested and thrown in a prison?

and then there are those that are so inept at philosophy (this is hte majority) that they condemn those that are better. it's the most typical response of the inexperienced to the experienced, hate, jealousy, misunderstanding. Their ego despises the idea that there is someone better than them, and therefore they should be belittled, quelched.
Mainstream society has adopted this idealogy; and it has eliminated mankind's perception and belief.

You sir, are a god among men for not only realizing and identifying what is true, but also for being able to write it; and not being afraid to voice it. I applaud, i applaud.

masterth : LVL 11: VP 2: said:

masterth

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1133 days 20 hours ago...

Ha! You guys think you're "theologists" or philosophers? If God thought you were in his corner he'd probably sneeze on you. Honestly, my mind boggles at just how thick you people are.

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