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Superb episode, outlining why the death penalty is just morally atrocious.

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5/10/2006 5:17:16 PM

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AhumbleKnight : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

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1297 days 2 hours ago...

Funny thing is, the most humane and painless and quick exicution method is death by Gillotine.

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Katie&Cheyenne : LVL 19: VP 2.8: said:

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1296 days 22 hours ago...

Wow, that was a load of crap.

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Midknight : LVL 43: VP 5: said:

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1296 days 21 hours ago...

The irony is this is coming from Penn - who is known to be into S&M.

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cryonix : LVL 12: VP 2.1: said:

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1296 days 19 hours ago...

the reason Decapitation isnt in common practice is because of accounts of the "head" still being alive and able to look around for up to 20 seconds... quick but not quite painless. its called Lucid Decapitation see article if you wish http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=495

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adamwolf : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

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1296 days 17 hours ago...

Bullshit! is great. Greater than all of us.
Greater than god himself.

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italmike2k2 : LVL 23: VP 3.2: said:

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1296 days 12 hours ago...

I dont understand this and maybe someone can clear it up.

If your given the death penalty, who the fuck cares if you suffer, the people they probably killed didn't die in a humaine way so why should the killer. Just aslong as you end up dead, it doesnt matter because when your dead you cant complain.

Good movie though, raises some good arguements

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Nahx : LVL 23: VP 3.2: said:

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1296 days 12 hours ago...

The death penelty is great! Look at all those people not killing eachother anymore because of it! And it doesn't cost millions of dollars each time either! But hey! Don't you ever think about having an abortion!! It's only right to kill eachother sometimes! Violence is the answer everyone!

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Cheesy Nimrods : LVL 11: VP 2: said:

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1296 days 12 hours ago...

The death penalty is pre-meditated murder in its purest form. The ultimate violation of a human being. A pre-planned ritual, whose sole purpose is to cause death.

What do you expect though, we're talking about America. $=more than human life to them.

Utterly degrading.

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Midknight : LVL 43: VP 5: said:

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1296 days 9 hours ago...

^ You can make an argument that disgust for evil and violent acts is far greater in the United States than on most parts of the World.

The fact the United States goes through the unpleasantness of the death penalty demonstates that they have a high moral core.

Of course, we could also talk about the nature of psychopathology.

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TomWaitsForNoOne : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

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1296 days 9 hours ago...

Two things:

1. I dont like how Penn keeps claiming that execution is proper Biblical tradition. I guess he never read that pesky little "thou shalt not kill" phrase or any of the new testament for that matter.

2. The argument that these people must be killed because they will reoffend is ludacris considering most of them are put to death decades after they committed their crimes.

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Levelord : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

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1296 days 3 hours ago...

^^^ I also don't like how Penn keeps claiming that these criminals are human beings. They kill innocent people in cold blood, they aern't human beings, they're MONSTERS.

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pincheCulero : LVL 43: VP 5: said:

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1296 days 3 hours ago...

That sucks. I hope that Agnus doesn't teach in English. I would hate to be taking her class. I am sick to fucking death of instructors that are hard to understand. It should be a requirement to learn better freakin' English before they can teach.

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sengaija : LVL 14: VP 2.3: said:

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1295 days 21 hours ago...

legal murder.

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Joan-Michele : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

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1295 days 21 hours ago...

It's true though. Killing is wrong, nobody should have the right to decide who lives and who dies, regardless of circumstances.

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AmericanPatriot : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

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1295 days 21 hours ago...

Exactly, that's why someone who does decide who dies, like a murderer, has no right to live.

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AmericanPatriot : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

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1295 days 21 hours ago...

What exactly is so morally just about letting cold-blooded murderers live off the backs of hard working americans (via tax) while denying justice to the victims of the monters acts? You can't claim moral high ground by letting ultimate evil go unpunished.

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mateo45 : LVL 10: VP 1.9: said:

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1295 days 20 hours ago...

This is directed to the dumbass who calls himself nahx. Do you really think an innocent unborn baby is the same as a convicted criminal?

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Sejs : LVL 20: VP 2.9: said:

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1295 days 16 hours ago...

"The death penalty is pre-meditated murder in its purest form."

"legal murder."

OKay, some of you people seriously need to get a dictionary. Murder = unlawful killing. If you want to say it's morally reprehensible, by all means, knock yourselves out. But at least use the word properly so you don't look like dickheads while you do it.

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JamesM : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

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1295 days 15 hours ago...

In Australia, it is illegal to kill someone! That includes the government! So, Capital Punishment is murder. I can understand how people can be happy with putting a horible person to death who has killed (personally, i don't think anyone has the right to kill someone, it doesn't matter who they are), but there are places in the world where 15g of heroin will get you hanged! That is barbaric.

Suck my balls Singapore.

RIP Nguyen Toung Van

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Nahx : LVL 23: VP 3.2: said:

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1295 days 14 hours ago...

AmericanPatriot said:
"What exactly is so morally just about letting cold-blooded murderers live off the backs of hard working americans (via tax) while denying justice to the victims of the monters acts? You can't claim moral high ground by letting ultimate evil go unpunished."

Actually, it costs millions of dollars more each year to sentence someone to death than to keep them in prison their whole life, even under maximum security. Don't quote me, but California's average cost for a capital murder case was something like $2.3 million if I remember correctly. Texas was $1.3 million. Anyone who gets charged with the death penalty automatically gets an appeal so this figure is a statement of complete court costs throughout the whole trial. Maximum prisons can service 3 people per year for $30,000, which is mainly prison guard pay. Divide 2.3 million by 30,000 and we can house 3 deathrow inmates for 76 years all at the same cost to tax payers as 1 death penelty case. Kinda makes sense to just lock them up for the rest of their lives, if someone were concerned with only tax dollars.

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exhumed : LVL 12: VP 2.1: said:

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1295 days 13 hours ago...

It isn't working for me. :(

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Sejs : LVL 20: VP 2.9: said:

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1295 days 11 hours ago...

"Actually, it costs millions of dollars more each year to sentence someone to death than to keep them in prison their whole life, even under maximum security."

To be fair, the only reason execution can be (not always -is-, mind you, but can be) more expensive than life-long incarceration is the abusable appeals process. In a nutshell, no matter how damning the evidence, no matter how cut and dry, open and shut the case is, the individual gets to expend every single possible appeal, all levels, every level, one at a time, before execution can be carried out.

It's clunky. It's slow to the tune of years-to-decades. And having to deal with that level of bureaucracy over and over again, in addition to the cost of housing and maintaining the individual is why execution can be so expensive.

The actual final step is cheap. $5 worth of drugs, a needle, a handi-wipe, some leather belts and a chair. It's the getting to that final step that's costly.

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MadDictator : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

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1295 days 10 hours ago...

i agree /\/\

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Midknight : LVL 43: VP 5: said:

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1295 days 10 hours ago...

Nahx: "Actually, it costs millions of dollars more each year to sentence someone to death than to keep them in prison their whole life, even under maximum security. Don't quote me, but California's average cost for a capital murder case was something like $2.3 million if I remember correctly."

^ California's system needs some long-overdue repairs. However, that 2.3 million figure probably includes the money spent by socialists to save the condemned.

In the case of Illinois, there was a mass murder by the name of John Wayne Gacy. He tortured, sodomized and murdered approximately 30 teenagers and buried their bodies in his home's crawlspace. Gacy is best known for dressing up as a clown and entertaining kids.

Anyway, he was found guilty on all 30 murders and sentenced to receive the needle. This would not have been expensive had it not been for a socialist advocacy group that wanted to abolish the death penalty.

They cost the Rep. of Illinois millions of dollars - to save a serial killer.

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York Pacer 2750 : LVL 9: VP 1.8: said:

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1295 days 10 hours ago...

It couldn't be more obvious that all the pro death penalty posters never even watched this.

Did you notice 121 people on death row were proven innocent and released? Begs the question, how many were not so lucky (innocently executed that is).

Did you notice how prosecutors withold vital evidence, because it may prove innocence. They don't wanna lose professional face you see.

Did you notice how police are pressurised to catch someone in high profile cases, no matter how weak or downright fabricated the evidence?

In short - CORRUPTION!

However, even if we had some means of proving guilt 100% all of this is irrelevant. You totally missed the point. The death penalty is plain WRONG! This is the 21st century and our law is that of savages.

I don't care about your precious tax dollars, we're talking about human LIFE. You're argument can be applied to ANYONE in prision. Let's execute tax evaders as well, or the old woman who backed her zimmer into a limosuine.

The central theme of this episode is that it's morally WRONG. That is to say not applicable in ANY circumstances. Sorry that flew over your heads.

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AmericanPatriot : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

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1295 days 10 hours ago...

>>Begs the question, how many were not so lucky (innocently executed that is).

You didn't notice that convicted murderers can murder innocent people while in prison? Including guards, fellow prisoners, phoning in 'hits' on the outside?

n 1974, Clarence Ray Allen ordered a 17-year-old young woman, Mary Sue Kitts, murdered because she knew of Allen's involvement in a Fresno, Calif., store burglary.

After his 1977 trial and conviction, Allen was sentenced to life without parole.

According to San Francisco Chronicle columnist Debra Saunders, "In Folsom State Prison, Allen cooked up a scheme to kill the witnesses who testified against him so that he could appeal his conviction and then be freed because any witnesses were dead -- or scared into silence." As a result, three more innocent people were murdered -- Bryon Schletewitz, 27, Josephine Rocha, 17, and Douglas White, 18.

Perhaps the most infamous case of a death penalty opponent directly causing the murder of an innocent is that of novelist Norman Mailer. In 1981, Mailer utilized his influence to obtain parole for a bank robber and murderer named Jack Abbott on the grounds that Abbott was a talented writer. Six weeks after being paroled, Abbott murdered Richard Adan, a 22-year-old newlywed, aspiring actor and playwright who was waiting tables at his father's restaurant.

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Midknight : LVL 43: VP 5: said:

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1295 days 10 hours ago...

^ Great points.

Most people opposed to the death penalty don't understand the human psyche or anti-social personality disorder. Its unfortunate. The educational system in many parts of the World leaves alot to be desired. In some cases, education is state-run, like in France, and contains little non-state thought. In many other cases, the system is simply not well organized or funded.

Anyway, the anti-death penalty advocates get involved in the emotional aspect of the death penalty and forget nature of the beast - sort of speak.
As for the statistics, I give little value to information that originates from advocacy groups. This is especially in the case with anti-death penalty groups which unfortunately tend to be dominated by socialists. The end justifies the means - at least in their eyes.

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Nirah : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

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1295 days 9 hours ago...

I would like to start by saying:
There are far greater punishments than death...
I come from a country with out death penalty... (Denmark)
I am against it...

Now it's time to talk...

People are people, people do things they think are right, which they have learned to be right, by their social upbringing, many americans who are for death penalty have their reason, they think it is the greatest punishment, they feel it is only fair, as a revenge...

I am against killers roaming our world... But killing them, is joining them... you wont be better than than him/her... No my friends and fellow "humans" there are better ways to punish a man... Death is simply a end to all... unless you belive in a life after death (which I don't) if your religious, chrisitan or other? the person will go to hell and that justifies your killing of him/her, but in my mind you simply end his life...
having said that, death is not the greatest punishment, it is a escape! Living the rest of your life in a cell on the other hand, you will have to live with the fact that, this is your new life.... your stuck, you wont ever live normal again... you can sit in there, wasting a lot of your life! that is a great punishment, unless you dont value your own life...

People who dont value their own life are a danger to them selves and others... hmm I better shut up now, since it's getting late here and all... comment my comment?

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JimCarrSavannah : LVL 17: VP 2.6: said:

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1295 days 8 hours ago...

I can't get this to work here in Georgia, U.S.A.
Perhaps neo-con's have instructed the NSA to filter liberal leaning commentary from all web casts.
B.T.W., would one of you people in Europe please let Germany know that we found Hitlers remains. They cloned him and his replicans are running our Government.

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SanMan899 : LVL 14: VP 2.3: said:

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1295 days 8 hours ago...

Its not working for me either

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1295 days 7 hours ago...

Vid doesn't work

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1295 days 5 hours ago...

not working anymore?

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makusan : LVL 20: VP 2.9: said:

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1295 days 5 hours ago...

Broken

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Bamont : LVL 14: VP 2.3: said:

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1295 days 5 hours ago...

Cheesy said:"The death penalty is pre-meditated murder in its purest form. The ultimate violation of a human being. A pre-planned ritual, whose sole purpose is to cause death.

What do you expect though, we're talking about America. $=more than human life to them.

Utterly degrading."

And what precisely do you call spending millions of dollars in appeals? Giving everyone the right to their own day in court is not only a law in this country, but it's a freely given right to all those that exist within our system.

I'll put it this way - my grandmother was killed by a mass murderer back in the 60's. Do you believe that it's morally wrong to have executed that man after he cold-bloodedly, and maliciously, destroyed the lives of dozens of people? The punishment fits the crime - and it's sad that we live in such a liberal society. People continue committing crimes because of how leniant society is on them - take countries like Pakistan, where the crime rate is small. It's that way because things like being a thief, or a murderer, are punished VERY severely. It makes the populace less inclined to commit atrocious acts against the community.

I say that we have a moral obligation to punish criminals who take the life and threaten the sanctity of our society. If that means placing them to death, then so be it. The moment they took it upon themselves to end someone else's life, they gave up the ability to decide when they die. We put that in the hands of the law - and should the law deem that said person should be executed - then it's obvious that it was meant to be.

Its obvious that people like you have never lost someone to a violent crime - therefore, you could never truly understand what it means or how it feels.

Until you have, act like most other liberals on the band-wagon of being against the death penalty - and for abortion - your idealogies speak for themselves.

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EckoKingpin : LVL 29: VP 3.8: said:

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1295 days 2 hours ago...

blah blah blah who cares what other countries do, down here in texas we we serve all kinds of death penalties i say "eye for an eye" should be the law of the land

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cwill23 : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

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1295 days 1 hour ago...

So explain to me again.... Why do the idiots line up to listen to Penn and Teller? Might as well go ask Tom Cruise. Executions are more economically effective. It costs the government $30,000 a year to house a prisoner, while the execution is $200,000. So if you have the choice to keep a prisoner for life or terminate that life, the execution is better for the economy in the long run (after 7 years). The death penalty gives the government leverage over its citizens and power to enforce its own laws. The idea of getting the death penalty definitely deters me from comitting violent crimes, not that I would do them anyway ; )

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AmericanPatriot : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

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1294 days 21 hours ago...

Life in prison is not life in prison. It's giving a murderer a lifelong chance to: escape and murder, murder a guard, murder an inmate, or arrange a murder on the phone. So all you anti-death penalty people think that it was better that a murderer killed those 3 more innocent people than to have the murderer killed?

Obviously, you value a murderer's life more than 3 innocent people's lives.

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Nahx : LVL 23: VP 3.2: said:

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AmericanPatriot: "Life in prison is not life in prison. It's giving a murderer a lifelong chance to: escape and murder, murder a guard, murder an inmate, or arrange a murder on the phone. So all you anti-death penalty people think that it was better that a murderer killed those 3 more innocent people than to have the murderer killed?

Obviously, you value a murderer's life more than 3 innocent people's lives."

Anytime someone uses this logic, it is called a slippery slope, a path of reasoning built upon unforseen events/motives. This was the same logic used by President Jackson when he ordered the death of little Indian boys during the 1800's, because one day they COULD grow up and poise a threat to him. We as a society cannot live like this, hence "Innocent until proven guilty."

Reguardless of your stance, a person still has to be OK with killing another person. Any way you rationalize it, anyway that you word it, it still boils down to, am I OK with killing another human being.

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PvtMcinnis : LVL 27: VP 3.6: said:

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1294 days 1 hour ago...

"The death penalty gives the government leverage over its citizens and power to enforce its own laws" said cwill23

It sure works... the pro death penatly states r such safe states(...) No1 kills anymore cuz of the fear of the DP (right.) its all abot flowers and lolipops now !

gimme a break. DP does NOT work in intimidating pple.

DP= murder, how can u say "dont kill, its bad, or else ill kill you", just doesnt make sense

b4 wondering how to deal with the criminals, maybe ask why u got alot of them, study the reasons. Right-wing sucks in that departement, left centered is by far the best deal.
From a canuck, canada rules bitches!

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Bamont : LVL 14: VP 2.3: said:

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1293 days 12 hours ago...

Cheesy: "It takes me 10 seconds to copy & paste my comment back. We'll see who gets bored first."

Which is the best way to completely avoid the argument. If you have an opinion to share - be prepared to back it up. If you can't, get off the boards.

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Loxy : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

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1290 days 17 hours ago...

Justifications for killing:
1) Practical, saves tax money... weak argument because it is putting convenience ahead of what is right (assuming it is right to value the life of a murderer)
2) Deterrant to killing... false as the clip points out well
3) Punishment must fit the crime... this is the only point that the clip fails to refute- it is not enough reason to dismiss fair punishment purely on the grounds of disgust that someone is dying. i.e. why is killing crminals wrong?

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1288 days 10 hours ago...

Human rights for those who act human. This issue is not about morality but JUSTICE. People who take pleasure in the rape, torture and murder of others are not human and do not deserve rights.

Yeah, I can understand a situation like where a person has been abused or tortured emotionally stiking back and killing the person. Take for example a woman who has an abusive husband. One day she fights back and kills him. Fine. People like that don't so it out of habit or for pleasure.

Killers like the crips guy(after he shot the korean family he bragged about it to his buddies calling them 'buddha heads and has never apologized to the families) and the serial rapist/killer murdered for pleasure. They get a kick out of it.

In their case the death penalty is fully justified.

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nova1999 : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

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1265 days 1 hour ago...

Gonzohowdy is a fag he only comes on this site so he can throw around insults thatthat he can't in real life. This man was the founder of the crips a major street gang. Why not make him use his influence for good. Instead you execute him why. He would much better benfit us by living. In the past yes death was the answer it was more efficient. People were killed within days of their sentence now it is not like that.

Gonzofaggy advocates the death penalty as he is a short sited idot. I am not merely throwing out insults. He bitchs about minor errors on peoples post and then calls them morons for it rather than act in a dignified manner. Basically he is just plain gay.

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Your_Lord : LVL 10: VP 1.9: said:

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Lets just take a weapon each and just start killing everyone that way we can guarantee that the murderers, rapists, robbers, corprate whores got what was coming to them! Right?

What people seem to be overlooking is the central theme to the show: Is killing a person MORALLY wrong? Now that is the base question, don't let facts and statistics get in the way, no other circumstances, just read the question: IS KILLING A PERSON MORALLY WRONG?

If you answered 'no' may god/ gods/ Michael Jackson have mercy on your soul/ life force/ choice in reincarnation.

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ThizzleWashington : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

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1254 days 15 hours ago...

Ive seen just about every bullshit episode. And this is the only one I disagree with. I also find it hypocritical that penn keeps using the bible as a reference for saying the death penalty is wrong. But in one of the earlier episodes that is actually on the site. They Debunk the whole Bible.

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1236 days 11 hours ago...

I just wish the US would make up its mind as to which way it wants to go. Some states have the death penalty while others don't...

There are people who cannot be rehibilitated, who pled guilty to serial or mass murder or who are caught red handed, the type of people for who a court trail is a waste of time as the outcome is a given (barring a killer being allowed to walk on a technicallity). For example Charles Manson. He came up for parole and they listed what he had done in the last year: attacked guards, attacked other prisoners, set fire to his cell, vandalised and abused everyone and everything. Apparently he had to be restrained at his parole hearing as he threatened to attack the hearing board. They asked him the opening question to which he replied "I want to eat your heart".
There is no doubt that this guy is never going to be released, can give nothing of any value to the world, and is in no way sorry for what he has done. He was simply lucky enough to be caught in a state without the death penalty.
You have cannibals, brutal serial killers, people who enjoy raping and torturing innocent children, who show not one hint of regret.
I for one will not shed a tear for the world to be rid of Charles Manson, Ed Gein, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Albert Fish, David Berkowitz...
Complaining that lethal injection may hurt them for a minute before they die is so insanificant when compared to the henious crimes they have commited. Its better than they deserve.

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AmericanPatriot : LVL 23: VP 3.2: said:

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1226 days 12 hours ago...

>>IS KILLING A PERSON MORALLY WRONG?

If that person is Osama Bin Laden, Hitler, a Mass-murderer then killing that person will accomplish more good than anyone here will accomplish in their entire life.

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1184 days 16 hours ago...

I just can't get over how many idiots are on this site...

You morons do realise that a person who is a murderer is usually a person who was brought up in an inappopriate way. I am sick of hearing "Would you kill Adolf Hitler as a child to prevent the future killings he commited". What hypocrites you are!

By the way to the person who said people who commit these acts "monsters". By that logic we are all monsters because to be a human-being is to be a fuckhead in our daily lives we live. We all arrogant and selfish, I don't care who you are.

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1067 days 19 hours ago...

Agreed, it is wrong to kill another human being.

And if I hear one more dumbass right-winger talk about the high costs of keeping violent criminals in jails, then why don't they do something about the millions of non-violent offenders sitting in jail because of a heroin addiction or the entire prisons worth of people sitting in jail, sucking up money because they had some weed on them? The prisons are built for people that need to be there, you can't kill all the people that should be kept in prisons to make room for all the people that don't belong there. That doesn't make any damn sense. THAT, my friends, is Bullshit.

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1009 days 8 hours ago...

To all those who complain that lethal injection is inhumane - what about firing squad? Surely a bullet is cheaper, instant, more humane, less degrading (not on public show) and generally more practical?
Dunno bout the rest of you, but if someone told me 'you will die now - pick a way' I'd prefer to go by a sniper rifle shot to my head.

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