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Avian Flu may be Something to Worry Abou...

Should we really be worried about this Bird Flu that we have been hearing about? I have heard some interesting points on NPR, and read quite a lot about it, and it seems to me the answer is an astounding yes.

Avian Flu in birds is quite common; it is simply a type of Influenza virus that is transmissible among birds. There are many known subtypes of this virus. Some are capable of killing the birds, and some have proven they have an ability to cross over to other species, including humans. The subtype H5N1 has to variations of itself, the low pathogenic and the highly pathogenic version. The latter having a 90-100% mortality rate.

There are reported cases since 1997 in which the virus has crossed over to humans. In 1997 there were 18 cases in Hong Kong. Only 6 of the patients died, and 1.5 million chickens were slaughtered to prevent further outbreak of this strain that came to be known as H5N1.

Since this outbreak many more have happened, from the Netherlands to Virginia, Vietnam to Canada and popping back up in Hong Kong frequently. 170 cases of human infection of the H5N1 virus have been confirmed. The number of deaths was recently reported by the BBC as just reaching the century mark. What has so many worried is that although rare, with every cross over of this virus it gets the chance to adapt and develop an ability to be as transmissible among humans as current human Influenza is. If that was to happen the current ratio of infections leading to deaths is alarming.

Robert G. Webster is one of the few bird flu experts confident enough to answer the key question: Will the avian flu switch from posing a terrible hazard to birds to becoming a real threat to humans?

There are "about even odds at this time for the virus to learn how to transmit human to human," he told ABC's "World News Tonight." Webster, the Rosemary Thomas Chair at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tenn., is credited as the first scientist to find the link between human flu and bird flu.

"I personally believe it will happen and make personal preparations," said Webster, who has stored a three-month supply of food and water at his home in case of an outbreak.

"Society just can't accept the idea that 50 percent of the population could die. And I think we have to face that possibility," Webster said.

"I'm sorry if I'm making people a little frightened, but I feel it's my role."

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  • Date 3/17/2006 7:49:45 PM
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Asher : LVL 9: VP 1.8: said:

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1331 days 22 hours ago...

There is a new and mutated form of flu every year. The deadly virus' rarely mutate into a form that infects humans. You might be right, but I think it's just another sensationalized story to help newspapers ply their trade.

Va|ence : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

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1331 days 21 hours ago...

Yeah i dont think we have much to worry about...or at least THAT much.

They made this kind of ruccus over the West Nile Virus too, and now its outta the news, because people realized that its not a big deal (unless of course you were from the ages of 70-90 where you really could have died from it, but then again you coulda died from just the normal cold)

Lucias : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

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1331 days 20 hours ago...

Check out the CDC's website, they rarely hype things. I got much of the facts from their site. The remote chance of things of this nature happening, do not mean there is no chance. Let us not forget the great pandemic of 1918.

DressToKill : LVL 42: VP 5: said:

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1331 days 11 hours ago...

S>A>R>S...Was going to wipe out the planet once!!!!!!!!!!!..Fickle Nonsense!!

hahajohnnyb : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

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1331 days 10 hours ago...

"Since this outbreak many more have happened, from the Netherlands to Virginia."

WRONG!!! This bird flu has not yet made it to the Americas and won't until next winter when it will cross over the Bearing Strait into Alaska, then Canada, then migrating geese will bring it down to the rest of America next winter, where it will eventually work its way into Mexico then South America by winter 2007.

Asher : LVL 9: VP 1.8: said:

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1331 days 10 hours ago...

Won't we be worried about ANOTHER virus then?

Seriously though, I hope you are wrong, because as history shows, plagues do happen, and it often comes from bird flu.

Lucias : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

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1331 days 8 hours ago...

Taken from www.cdc.gov.

H7N2, Virginia, 2002: Following an outbreak of H7N2 among poultry in the Shenandoah Valley poultry production area, one person was found to have serologic evidence of infection with H7N2.

H7N2, New York, 2003: In November 2003, a patient with serious underlying medical conditions was admitted to a hospital in New York with respiratory symptoms. One of the initial laboratory tests identified an influenza A virus that was thought to be H1N1. The patient recovered and went home after a few weeks. Subsequent confirmatory tests conducted in March 2004 showed that the patient had been infected with avian influenza A (H7N2) virus.

WRONG!! the one you are talking about is the specific subtype strain of the virus known as H5N1, and it is projected to enter into America within the next 9 - 12 months, possibly sooner.

assmaster : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

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1331 days 8 hours ago...

My thinking is that all these mass killings of chickens to try and rid us of the H5N1 strain is potentially increasing it's likelyhood of mutating toa more deadly strain. I say that because, unless you kill every single bacterium of the avian flu viruses - you only cause it to mutate further to increase it's own survival rate. kill everything it uses to propagate itself, it will just find something else to propagate in.

hahajohnnyb : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

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1331 days 5 hours ago...

H7N2, get the fuck outtta here! No ones talking about that one, your article specifically mentions H5N1 just a sentence before, and a few sentences later, If you were speaking about general transfers you should have mentioned that. Animal to human transfer is not even an issue, we all know that that can happen, what we are worried about is human to human transfer.

From what little I understand, there generally needs a transfer species like a pig. The Pig catches H5N1 where it mutates in the environment of something like a corporate hog farm, until it finally gets transferred to people in a form that can transmit itself person to person like a regular flu.

We, in Canada and the USA, are much cleaner than people in Europe and Asia, in that we do not live closely with Animals, as they do in asia, and we don't live closely to each other in over crowded cluster fucks of cities where millions people crowd into tiny subway cars, exposing themselves to literally millions of other peoples' germs everyday, as they do in asia and europe.

So pretty much this thing is no big deal to Canadians or Americans who live outside of the big crowed cities, don;t work in the heath care industry and aren't farm labor. Everyone else? Who knows? Maybe nothing will happen.

Traxx : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

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1331 days ago...

As someone said before SARS was said would cause a worldwide padnemic also and nothing became of it.. as the poster above me stated Canadians and Americans are much healthier then the rest of the world and as such those diseases rarely impact us over here.

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.. it is only a ruse to get us to poor billions of more money into useless research for them to find treatments instead of cures, because we all know for a fact that there is no money in the cure.. only in the treatment.

Lucias : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

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1330 days 19 hours ago...

Not if half your customers are inflicted with a strain that has 2 subtypes one being bad and the other having a 90 - 100% mortality rate. There is currently no treatment that works all the time, due to the mutation factor of the virus. Also, Johnny, once the unlikely transfer happens in Asia, or where ever you would like, it will then be human to human transmissable. And most Americans do live in crowded areas. Those who do not, usually frequent large cities. All I am saying is this has a potential to be catastrophic. Knowledge of this potential, and knowing what to do to lower your risk seems like the smart thing to do.

And here is your disclaimer.

My article was about Avian Influenza. Some of what I referenced was not specific to the specific strain (H5N1), and specific subtype of that strain(highly pathogenic).

RedShark : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

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1330 days 7 hours ago...

'We, in Canada and the USA, are much cleaner than people in Europe and Asia' - you cheeky little sod! I assume your not including the rednecks of western Canada and the southern states of the U.S, I've seen them and they are dirty buggers

Lucias : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

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1330 days 3 hours ago...

HAHAHAH ^

hahajohnnyb : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

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1329 days 18 hours ago...

RedShark, yep and I have been to the capitals of Europe, including London, and can tell you that the way that Americans and Canadians live makes us much less susceptible to illnesses like the flu, compared to people who live in massive crowed cities and take public transportation, and are around a bunch of people who take public transportation.

We all drive our own cars to work, park in the lot and frequently work in the open air. Especially Western Canadians and people in the Southern US. Will this make us immune? No of course not! We would get infected too, but at much lower rate than those in Europe and Asia. Which is what I meant by saying that we are 'cleaner'.

The economic impact of pandemic bird flu would be catastrophic and would create a world wide depression, mostly because of its impact in Europe.

AndyJP : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

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1329 days 16 hours ago...

These viruses better wise up...start being nice.

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