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Army Takes Baby Away

"He's been taken away from his mother. By the time he actually sees his mother, he'll probably be 2-year-old. Will she even know who she is at that point in time? It's ridiculous." -- Angelique Hughes, baby's grandmother

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koryo : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

koryo

5 votes NegativePositive

84 days 10 hours ago...

When she joined the military, she made an oath! Nobody forced her to open her legs. This is exactly why women have NO place in the military. You don`t want to get me started on this subject. I can`t tell you how many times I had to carry female Marines packs and rifles during a hump(hike) while letting them hold on to my my pack to help them walk so they wouldn`t fall out. How`s that fair? I had to do twice the work.
Women in the military get special treatment all the time. It`s bullshit!



-Former Marine

Red Heaven : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

Red Heaven

4 votes NegativePositive

84 days 10 hours ago...

^
Don`t be such an asshole. Nobody forced her to open her legs? The fucking kid`s 11 months old already when this video was taken.

The problem was that the child had no one to care for it. She initially had her mother care for the child, but the grandmother was overwhelmed in her old home.

Who the fuck do you blame here? You have a child you need to care for. She took an oath? Oh, fuckin` great, then let`s just leave the kid in the fuckin` home alone so it can die and rot.

Yeah, it`s so easily cut and dry.

This isn`t a matter of you picking up weight for women. That`s a different subject.

This is about a woman that had a child, but no one to care for it. When your choice is:

1) Board airplane to Afghanistan and let child die.
2) Try to find someone to care for her kid for months on end, but miss the plane.

It becomes pretty clear what`s going on. And, to make a note off topic, you should only join the military if you have the capacity to do it. This applies whether you`re a male or female.

I`m not sure what was going on in your situation, but would you have done the same for a skinny-ass male? Or would you say `Man up and carry your own shit`. Did you pick up the packs and rifles because you were doing a favor, or because you were ordered?

If you offered, fuck you mate. Your fault.

If you were ordered, then I agree, and that`s a problem. The military should give women the same treatment as men when it comes to service. Can you do the work? No? Get out, male or female. Yes? Well, get crackin`.

koryo : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

koryo

4 votes NegativePositive

83 days 22 hours ago...

^To answer the latter part of what you were talking about...I was "ordered" to help them. If a guy fell out, he was considered a fall-out and would suffer the consequences...which usually meant a lot of extra p.t. for him. He could also undergo office hours and receive some form of punishment there, which would vary.

It was an absolute no-no to let a girl fall out. We were to do whatever it took to make sure that the females finished the humps.

This is just a small part of my complaint about women serving in the military.

As far as the baby thing goes....I knew a lot of female Marines that purposely got pregnant just so that they couldn`t be deployed. They were even open about it. I`m not trying to bring race into this, but the black girls were usually the worst.

Don`t get me wrong, I feel terrible for the kid. My issue on this subject has nothing to do with the child, but the mother.

Red Heaven : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

Red Heaven

3 votes NegativePositive

83 days 20 hours ago...

^
You were ordered? Bah... Women should be held to the same standards as men. Equality, right? I think they`ve been cared for and pampered too long. I`ve heard a lot of tales of the women soldiers in the Red Army during WWII. Women in the US don`t have an excuse.

As far as the video goes, I`d point out that the child was 11 months old when this video was taken. Not only that, but the grandmother attempted to care for the baby for a WEEK.

This isn`t a matter of her getting pregnant so she couldn`t be deployed. This is a matter of the woman unable to find someone to care for her ALREADY BORN child.

Again, she wasn`t pregnant. She already had a several month old child. This sounds like a situation where the mother imagined that she was alone and a single mother, and needed a paycheck proper. She probably banked on her own mother taking care of the kid.

However, her mother couldn`t. So she brought the child back.

So the baby`s mother is stuck between a rock and a hard place. I can`t imagine the stress of desperately trying to find a means or way to have someone care for her child. And then you have your shipping date coming up day-after-day-after-day.

Dirt Digger : LVL 45: VP 5: said:

Dirt Digger

3 votes NegativePositive

83 days 20 hours ago...

^^^ It seems the Marine Corps lack the technology to develop a man-eating truck. In Canada we`ve had these for years...people that fall out climb aboard and are never seen by their course mates again.

Personally, I`ll carry the pack of anyone not willing to give up. Those with sand in their ovaries (male or female) can get on the truck. Nomnomnom.

Anyways...with the video: This will continue to be a problem with the rise in single parent statistics. More common with single mothers, but now with single fathers as well. The concern is that the member had a family care plan that fell apart when it became necessary to put the plan in place. When it happens, the chain of command often becomes suspicious (as in this case), as the family problems seem to occur only when the person is scheduled to deploy.

I`ve dealt with it once and it really is a balancing act...duty vs. compassion. You can usually read your troops fairy well and the leadership should be able to determine if this is truly a hardship case...or just someone trying to get out of a deployment.

Ninjzz : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

Ninjzz

-3 votes NegativePositive

83 days 11 hours ago...

Who cares what you had to carry and what woman can and cant do this is about that poor child where are all of the support the troops F#cks to take care of him that have the bumperstickers on their cars guess thats how much they support the troops ......

epi : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

epi

1 votes NegativePositive

83 days 7 hours ago...

obviously, this argument has two legit sides.

If i was in the army, i wouldn`t want to have to worry about women more than men. also, girls should have equal rights to fight/protect a country, but girls are obviously signing up, then having children to try and stop themselves from going. what they`re doing to this child seems morally wrong as well.

fuck armies.

Silverest : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

Silverest

1 votes NegativePositive

80 days 2 hours ago...

I just don`t get it. So many people bitching and moaning about how women shouldn`t be in the military and there is a shortage in troops to be deployed to Afghanistan. There is not enough reserves to meet the quota and additional troops needed. There is always a need for recruitment but not enough people who wants to go get their ass blown up for a war that we don`t belong in.

Then you have women who actually enlist and serve, and over a matter not of their fault entirely, you bitch and moan about them. The worse part in all of this? "Some" of you who have served in the military before should be held to a higher standard. I mean, is it really necessary to bitch and cry like pansies? I thought marines were taught to be tough.

I have friends who are serving right now in the Navy, Marines, and Army and I`ve yet to hear any of them tell stories about how they got upset over a woman in the military.

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