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  • Date 6/12/2009 5:55:45 AM
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exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

10 votes NegativePositive

150 days 15 hours ago...

Thanks hogo. 110% awesome as usual. Been waiting a while since his last post, glad you`re on it.

EckJerome : LVL 41: VP 4.9: said:

EckJerome

15 votes NegativePositive

150 days 6 hours ago...

Man created God in His image.

Crimson Wave : LVL 43: VP 5: said:

Crimson Wave

12 votes NegativePositive

150 days ago...

I`d like to buy this guy a beer for being so awesome.

blade9z : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

blade9z

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149 days 18 hours ago...

Don`t blame Jesus pls! He didn`t even write the bible, He probably trying to spread some good message across to people in those days, while decades after his death people make up all sort of thing about him, simply because he is dead and can`t talk back. If you do your research the bible is written by men to serve their selfish means, enough said.

craptastic1 : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

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149 days 17 hours ago...

this guy is dumb, he is just referring God to the bible, the bible had nothing to do with God but that doesn`t mean there isn`t one. there must be a higher power out there that watches us and maybe even help us sometimes, so that`s the kind of God he should be talking about. these people should stop referring to the bible all the time, we all know its been changed hundreds of times already.

Vizreel : LVL 42: VP 5: said:

Vizreel

8 votes NegativePositive

149 days 16 hours ago...

^ What? what`s the point of talking about a hypothetical thing when there are million of idiots, that actually believe there`s this guy out there with awesome powers that loves us, that like to put restrictions on our way of life just because they don`t like to have their belief being questioned? Go fuck yourself, you religious moron. And to hell with jesus and the rest, I can pull out better iconic moral characters out of my ass with no effort whatsoever. You have to understand that the value of a guy that teaches moral conduct and at the same time says he`s the son/prophet/and so on of god is equal to ZERO. Would you take advice from a schizophrenic? No? Congratulations, if you still follow jesus you`re a hypocrit.

Skiba : LVL 41: VP 4.9: said:

Skiba

6 votes NegativePositive

149 days 12 hours ago...

Pat seems more angry than usual. Maybe its all the gardening hes done.

Wonfis : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

Wonfis

4 votes NegativePositive

149 days 9 hours ago...

craptastic1, his issue is with religion, not with the idea of a God. He even pretty much says outright he`s not an Atheist so he`s an agnostic. His particular variety is, I think, the one that is open to the idea of a Creator or a Supreme Being but does not see the truth in any characteristics we may ascribe to It, especially the method of control known as Religion.

Feruco : LVL 13: VP 2.2: said:

Feruco

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149 days 8 hours ago...

If we can all agree that people created God in our own image, and abolishing the concept of God flies in the face of the majority of the world, why not accept the parts that work and take some personal God as a moral compass, and reason out that it makes sense to do unto others as you would have them do unto you, even if you don`t always gain from it.

That`s it, don`t go to church, don`t even pray if you don`t want to, just understand that there are things in this universe larger than ourselves, and refer to that as God and find some middle ground with all the religious people just trying to make their lives more pleasant.

Fervent atheists are just as stubborn and closed-minded as religious nuts. God exists, God doesn`t exist, in the end it doesn`t change anything, why create needless acrimony by shitting all over people that don`t think like you do?

Tajumera : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

Tajumera

5 votes NegativePositive

149 days 8 hours ago...

^ Because their crazy beliefs result in crazy actions?

And the existence or non existance of deities is pretty important. I like how you play the middle ground, but are so easily influenced by religious ideas. The fact that you refer to "God" rather than god(s) shows that you promote monotheism, even when you aren`t trying to.

And i don`t care if people end believing in superstitions and fairy tales, but what I do mind is when kids have this crap forced onto them before they have developed any real sense of logic, or even languauge. Religion is largely inherited, and that is the part that I really hate. It is not a position reached after objective consideration of the universe and possible explanations, it is a curse of the family or country that you are born into.

Nose Nuggets : LVL 12: VP 2.1: said:

Nose Nuggets

8 votes NegativePositive

149 days 6 hours ago...

religion is the #1 thing restricting the progress of our species.

Feruco : LVL 13: VP 2.2: said:

Feruco

-2 votes NegativePositive

149 days 6 hours ago...

Tajumera do you really believe all these crazy actions wouldn`t find some other outlet in the absence of religion? The Middle East is politically complex, radical Islam is a means to an end for the people in control over there.

I say God and not Gods because I prefer to keep the general concept under one heading, instead of appealing to one god for fertility, one god for war, and so on. Human nature is one overarching concept, and if God is human nature, a single God will do.

I agree with you, children should not be fed 4000-year old superstition as fact. However, parents are responsible for encouraging and shaping a child`s spirituality, which exists, regardless of whether you believe in God or not. Same deal with raising your kids on tv; it doesn`t make tv evil, it just means you`re a lazy parent.

Religion is a tool. That`s what it started as. It can be used to benefit us, or to destroy us. The only thing you do by condemning its existence is radicalize the opposition even further.

Nose Nuggets : LVL 12: VP 2.1: said:

Nose Nuggets

-3 votes NegativePositive

149 days 5 hours ago...

^
yeah but TV does not say you need to love and fear the tyrannical space dweller.

i know you would see less violence and heinous acts if religion did not tell people to do so.

religion started as a way to explain the crazy shit that had no explanation in the bronze age. people dint know what caused volcanoes to erupt, earthquakes to rumble, or even a concept of the microorganism that, dare i say, have dominion over us. having the religious opposition become more radical when confronted with facts and condemning its existing just goes to show how harmful it is to the progress of our species. if you are so invested in fairy tales that you refuse to accept scientific common sense we are doomed to be stuck in these 2000 year old pages that glorify violence, rape, and genocide.

exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

2 votes NegativePositive

149 days 4 hours ago...

LOVE

Silverest : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

Silverest

2 votes NegativePositive

149 days 3 hours ago...

Not arguing "for" religion, but rather on logic. What if there really does exist a God. Yet, the world still is imperfect. What if from the beginning, he left the future of the world to our own hands. What if the only time he intervened with human affairs was when he sent Jesus to live with humans. What if instead of snapping his fingers every time a person has a complaint about how imperfect the world is, he allow every individual living being to make its own decision. Allowing them free will of their own destiny. What if that was the greatest gift any higher being can give you. Like people setting their pets free instead of caging them up. What if the only thing your little hamster ever wanted was the ability to live on its own free will and go or do whatever it wanted to. It`s own life would be in its own hands.

Or what if people had the option to tell God that they just want everything to be happy and perfect. No disease, no famine, no killing, no raping, no stealing, and no death. What if every living creature and beings there ever lived on earth was still alive, because death does not exist. How many of you would have to live in the same room as thousands of others? Since everything is perfect, you won`t need to feel any other emotions other than happiness. Crying and sadness wouldn`t exist. Would you still be human? Would you still feel that you have that same free will? Would you prefer to be that little hamster living in a perfect cage? Being protected from all the horrible things in the world around you.


"There are two tragedies in life: one is not to get your heart`s desire. The other is to get it." - George Bernard Shaw


There`s definitely a certain aspect of beauty in life where we have the ability to feel hatred, sadness, happiness, and love. I`m not in support of violence or world hunger and all the horrible things in the world. But without them, our life would be like a colorless picture book. Never going to really know the full detail and colors of life.


Personally, I believe in God. But my faith in him diminishes at every passing day. I like the feeling of acknowledging a higher being to answer things I can`t explain. Whether that is shallow thinking to some or not, really doesn`t bug me. But I also believe in technological advancement. I believe that world hunger can be solved. I believe world peace is getting closer at every passing day. If it doesn`t. Well, we`re all going to die anyways. But one thing I won`t do, is to blame all the world problems on a certain "God." Honestly, as humans. The way we behave with our own freedom of choice and governing our own destiny. We are the only ones to blame for what happens now and in the future.

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