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Nano-thermite Discovered in the WTC Dust

Undeniable proof that highly advanced explosives were used on September 11. This discovery has been formally released April 6th, by Dr. Neils Harrit; Department of Chemistry at the University of Copenhagen, Denmark.

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Xan : LVL 26: VP 3.5: said:

Xan

24 votes NegativePositive

223 days ago...

I saw the "explosive" conspiracy ages ago, and they are just realising it is true now? It just makes me wonder how many of these so called conspiracy theories are actually true.

fattirefury : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

fattirefury

Hidden (Show Comment) -47 votes

222 days 22 hours ago...

Just let it go

exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

31 votes NegativePositive

222 days 22 hours ago...

For the actual paper see:

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/0
0000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

The paper in a nutshell:

WE HAVE DISCOVERED DISTINCTIVE RED/GRAY CHIPS IN ALL THE SAMPLES WE HAVE STUDIED OF THE DUST PRODUCED BY THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
...
THE RED PORTION OF THESE CHIPS IS FOUND TO BE AN UNREACTED THERMITIC MATERIAL AND HIGHLY ENERGETIC.

Full abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by thedestruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported inthis paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattanresident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later.The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energydispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separationof components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminumare intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurringat approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-richspheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of thesechips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

Sorry to help bear the sad news, but you can`t fake this kind of stuff. These are some real answers.

exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

51 votes NegativePositive

222 days 22 hours ago...

To fattirefury, and everone else who chimes in to say "Just let it go":

Why? So you can keep living in an ignorant fantasy? So that real perpatrators of mass murder can go undiscovered and live to do it again?

Truth sucks, but lies and ignorance suck worse.

We owe it to the future not to "just let it go", especially when the stakes are thousands, and could be millions, of lives.

truth-is-the-nemesis : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

truth-is-the-nemesis

-3 votes NegativePositive

222 days 20 hours ago...

1. did they find any chemical signatures of thermate? (E.g. Barium Nitrate or Aluminum Oxide).

2. they said it was an article, not a peer-reviewed scientific publication.

3. if nano-thermite, 2 jetliners, and a fire fueled by jet fuel which burned for 2 hours wasn`t enough what else was used?.

4. ok i`m going to ask the obvious question here - why use the planes? and how did they strike the only section of the towers NOT containing nano-thermite?.

(remember you could just blow it up on a whim and easily blame it on al quada + spare alot of US lives
so why go to excess trouble and a higher risk of getting found out?).

5. why did he not bring on a sample?.

6. if you watch the BBC documentary all about the `truth movement` they show several of the WTC floors crushed together by the massive force involved in the collapse.

exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

17 votes NegativePositive

222 days 19 hours ago...

^ truth-is-the-nemesis

1. Mostly just nano-particle aluminum and iron oxide, clearly imaged by all kinds of electron microscope type machines. At least go skim the paper.

2. It was published in Bentham Open, and seems to be a peer reviewed paper. Danish translation less than perfect?

3. Scientists eh? He is just being accurate that we don`t know how it was done. We know there were planes, we know there was a fire, and WE KNOW THERE WAS NANO-THERMITE. That`s all, but the last bit is enough to really know that we don`t know the whole story.

4. Big Drama! Anything less would be an obvious inside job. And how do you know there wasn`t nano-thermite in those sections where they hit? Did I miss something?

5. A TV camera is not an electron microscope, and the paper is free online, in all its gory detail.

6. If you watch TV, they tell all kinds of Big Fat Fucking Lies. Besides, you can`t make an omlette without breaking some eggs. Of course there was big mangled shit to show, what would you expect? The exact "how" is still a mystery by all accounts, official or otherwise.

truth-is-the-nemesis : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

truth-is-the-nemesis

1 votes NegativePositive

222 days 17 hours ago...

again i`ll ask the obvious, if you claim `you don`t know!`, than what are you trying to convince us of?, can`t you see a very clear contradiction here in science if you are skeptical of a theory your supposed to rebuttal it with counter-evidence and i have yet to see any from the theorists side.

(again)
1. Barium Nitrate & Aluminum Oxide are chemical `signatures` that thermate would definately HAVE to possess in order to be in any way plausible, aluminum and iron oxide would be expected to be discovered in that much debris, it proves nothing to contradict the scientifically accepted theory.

2. if it is peer-reviewed, i`ll be very interested to see if it becomes fact.

(hard to tell since even some 911 sites say steven jones` paper was `peer-reviewed` even though they weren`t and were rejected by his own campus professors.)

3. again without specific chemical elements all he is finding is aluminum and iron oxide NOT NANO-THERMATE. that`s cherry-picking the evidence.

4. how do i know there wasn`t thermite there? it would have exploded or started the demolition prematurely.

5. you can google thousands of pics from electron microscopes, so it is possible to bring evidence to this presentation to further help back-up his theory, and the fact that he didn`t makes me very skeptical.

6. how can you believe that TV is all lies yet thats where truthers get a large part of there ideas from? in the BBC program not only is the steel crushed and 3 floors are flattened together, parts of the steel are twisted, how would demolition answer this?.

exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

13 votes NegativePositive

222 days 16 hours ago...

^ Fuck, just go read the paper yourself!

All I am trying to convince anyone is to actually look at the paper and judge for themselves. Is that so impossible? If you don`t like what it says, go argue them. Meanwhile your distortions and STUPID questions are sounding pretty empty.

Really truth-is-the-nemesis, you seem to have a pretty bad mental block against this topic.

1. They imaged and tested nano-thermite flakes found in the dust samples. Not just random Al and FeO2 traces. Clear, distinct composite flakes of a proper mixture of nano particle Al and FeOx. This is not accidental chemistry, these things do not occur in nature or uncontrolled conditions. And no, it wouldn`t have to be a thermate mix, nano-thermite does just fine. It was unambiguous and thourough testing, not some lame highschool science project. What are your chemical qualifications? I defer to the paper, Mr. expert.

2. From the website and the paper:

Welcome to Bentham Open Access
BENTHAM OPEN publish over 239 peer-reviewed open access journals. These free-to-view online journals cover all major disciplines of science, technology, and medicine.

Authors:
Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen

3. again Mr. expert... read the paper or shut up.

4. Interesting hypothesis you have. Or maybe they drilled into the columns and filled them with thermitics, so they wouldn`t go off right away, and would weaken the structure where it needed to be weakened to collapse. Us amatures, we speculate, it`s fun.

5. Whatever. I won`t pretend to know the mind of Danish TV or its audience.

6. Not "all lies", just "all kinds of" BFF lies. And maybe the steel was hot because of nano-thermite? That would make it twist up really easy. Who knows?

Neither the government or their agents did chemical analysis to test for thermite or explosives residues. Probably in contravention to their own procedural rules about fire investigations (I would guess). So far the only people who seem to have done it show thermite, and there seems to be no refutation of this research. I eagerly await a credible refutation, but I must wonder if one will or can come.

truth-is-the-nemesis : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

truth-is-the-nemesis

1 votes NegativePositive

222 days 15 hours ago...

Bentham Open Access:

Authors:
Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen

(this is not a peer reviewed scientific source)

it is writen & reviewed by Scholars for 9/11 Truth & Justice.

Steven E Jones & why he is bad for science:

Steven E. Jones is a professor at Brigham Young University. He has created the paper which has created the ground swell around the 911 conspiracy theories. His paper was peer reviewed but not by a civil engineering journal. One would think a serious professor would get his paper peer reviewed by a scientific journal which specializes in the field they are writing the paper on.

But is Professor Jones qualified to create a paper which says the towers must have fallen due to explosives? He is a physics professor but what experience does Jones have in building collapse forensics? He has none. His other peer reviewed papers consist of cold fusion technology. He conducts research in nuclear fusion and solar energy. Nothing in his background would suggest he is qualified to write a civil engineering paper on the infinitely complex building collapse of the towers.

Brigham Young University doesn`t want anything to do with the paper.

A few department chairmen at Jones` university have issued critical statements, though none of these has yet addressed any of the points which Jones made in his paper and at his presentation at BYU. Chairman of the BYU department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Dr. Miller, is on record stating in an e-mail, "I think without exception, the structural engineering professors in our department are not in agreement with the claims made by Jones in his paper, and they don`t think there is accuracy and validity to these claims".

The BYU physics department has also issued a statement: "The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones` hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Center buildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU`s own faculty members. Professor Jones` department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." The College of Engineering and Technology department has also added, "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones."

Jones says his paper will pass peer review again. But will it pass peer review in a respected civil engineering journal? Nothing less would be taken seriously.

MARINE255 : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

MARINE255

16 votes NegativePositive

222 days 14 hours ago...

I`m just going to ask this question, whats more idiotic? Believing everything the general media tells you? or doing a bit of research and cross referencing?

I also see something wrong with 2 buildings perfectly demolishing in on themselves after being crashed into by 2 planes and a 3rd one for no apparent reason... maybe it just wanted to be popular and went with the flow?

Überfuckerwit : LVL 65: VP 5: said:

Überfuckerwit

11 votes NegativePositive

222 days 13 hours ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmuzyWC60eE

How do you knock 3 buildings down with 2 planes?

exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

5 votes NegativePositive

222 days 12 hours ago...

FROM THE LINK:

The Open Chemical Physics Journal

ISSN: 1874-4125 Volume 2, 2009

Aims & Scope
The Open Chemical Physics Journal is an Open Access online journal which publishes research articles, reviews and letters in all areas of chemical physics.

The Open Chemical Physics Journal is a peer-reviewed journal which aims to provide the most complete and reliable source of information on current developments in chemical physics. The emphasis will be on publishing quality papers rapidly and freely available to researchers worldwide.



You can feint and attack Jones all you want, it`s not just his paper.

gordon85 : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

gordon85

3 votes NegativePositive

222 days 11 hours ago...

from above:

"They imaged and tested nano-thermite flakes found in the dust samples. Not just random Al and FeO2 traces. Clear, distinct composite flakes of a proper mixture of nano particle Al and FeOx. This is not accidental chemistry, these things do not occur in nature or uncontrolled conditions. And no, it wouldn`t have to be a thermate mix, nano-thermite does just fine" - exploder

Oh so you are suggesting that under uncontrolled conditions it is impossible to create nano particles of that composition? what does make you an expert?
having studied chemistry and working in the field of metal-nano particle synthesis I can tell you that if you go out in nature you can find almost any element or mix of elements in the form of nano particles. Nature produces this stuff day by day. No wonder that they found stuff like that after the collapse. It`s a known fact that combustions in the presence of metals may produce nano particle powders of those metals.

you are free to search for that stuff by yourself.

I dont belive in conspiracy - there are just people out there that don`t know about basic chemisty.

exploder : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

exploder

0 votes NegativePositive

222 days 9 hours ago...

^ Great, you should easily understand the paper if you read it.

mindovermatter : LVL 7: VP 1.6: said:

mindovermatter

5 votes NegativePositive

222 days 8 hours ago...

What I want to know is what would be the motive to crash a plane into a building and then blow it up? More damage? Why bother at the risk of being discovered. That`s what I don`t understand about the blow the buildings up theory. Not saying it didn`t happen.

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