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Fire ant attacks are forcing fence lizards to evolve to survive.

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Flynn_2006 : LVL 44: VP 5: said:

Flynn_2006

47 votes NegativePositive

301 days 1 hour ago...

Take that creationists!

stbasdf : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

stbasdf

4 votes NegativePositive

300 days 22 hours ago...

interesting discovery. there are other good examples like this, can read about many of them in any ecology/evolution text. this case was about evolution, change of the gene pool through passing on of traits by natural selection. there are even witnessed cases of speciation due to changes in genetics like anueploidy, or change in mating behavior, depending on what your definition of species is.

assassinscv : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

assassinscv

40 votes NegativePositive

300 days 22 hours ago...

This isn`t a blow against creationists. Evolution is a proven fact, but it doesn`t stop them from believing that God created everything.

Tada : LVL 42: VP 5: said:

Tada

15 votes NegativePositive

300 days 20 hours ago...

I don`t see how this is a blow to creationists. MOst of the consider microevolution a fact. The kind they don`t consider a fact is macroevolution, the kind that creates separate species which, even though they share a common ancestor, are unable to produce offspring which each other.

But sure you`re free to laugh at them for being stupid and ignorant anyways.

Vizreel : LVL 41: VP 4.9: said:

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300 days 20 hours ago...

@assassinscv

Uhm, no... don`t mistake theory with fact. Evolution is still a theory although many signs lead towards its validification. Evolution takes in account a series of permutations that can`t exactly be proved through direct observational methods thus it`s very difficult to isolate one process, in which random chance plays a major role, out of billions out there.
Don`t get me wrong, I`m not a creationist. It`s ignorant to believe in something that you think is "fact" just because you heard it somewhere sometime and not do the research yourself and understand what that concept means... that`s exactly how religious people act, blind faith with no thoughts of their own.

miketrike : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

miketrike

20 votes NegativePositive

300 days 19 hours ago...

Definition of Theory:
(a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena) "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"

That`s how it works, nothing can be a fact! You would have to be what people think of as god to know an absolute fact. However, based on all observable evidence. Evolution is much better at explaining things than "god did it." Don`t be a dip!

Sasuke428 : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

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300 days 10 hours ago...

I have faith that god whispered into the little creatures ear:

"Little chosen creature that I created, turns out I didn`t make you just right (although I am infallible) and I`m going to need you to change just a little bit...."

And so he has whispered to creatures for millions of years, ever since he whispered to the first molecules that formed the first traces of organic life in the universe.

amnesiac : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

amnesiac

5 votes NegativePositive

299 days 14 hours ago...

still doesnt explain the banana ;)

MANWHORE : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

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299 days 14 hours ago...

Here we fucken go again,

I made my nut job religious cousin watch Zeitgeist the other day which thew him into a big fucking rant about this shit and I said to him "did you ever think of the possibility of a powerful creative force "God" who creates life capable of evolving?, I mean Im sure in a never ending Universe he`s probably too busy to actually sit there designing every little detail such as the nose hairs for a fucking manatee!"

After that he just silently stared at me as if he`s never thought of the possility of both creationist and evolution theory could both be part of the picture, hes just so eager like Darwinists to prove his side right at any cost.

Anyway fuck both you creationists and you Darwinists your both the same, trying to prove a fucking point simply for the purpose of gratifying your stupid ego`s. Your probably both wrong so suck my cock.

amnesiac : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

amnesiac

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299 days 14 hours ago...

^ actually the goal is so that we can all move on and evolve intellectually without questioning how/why things happen, asking is it science or is it magic?

LeighCedar : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

LeighCedar

8 votes NegativePositive

299 days 14 hours ago...

Vizreel,

Evolution is now considered fact in the same way the theory of gravity is considered fact. It is possible that they are wrong, and that we are actually held on the earth by thousands of invisible faeries, but its not very likely.

The theory part comes in with the process. For evolution is it natural selection. That part is the theory, the fact that life evolves is no longer in the realm of theory.

@Manwhore,

Good for you for making someone ask real questions of their beliefs. You should probably do the same too though: Zeitgeist is a terrible movie, full of factual errors once about every minute (at least in the opening religious section).
That`s not to say that their isn`t some merit to the idea that Jesus is actually just a reiteration of earlier mythic figures, but the evidence for those is found in comparative mythology... not in a crappy movie that couldn`t even be bothered to check if its sources were even remotely correct.

d1dgreat1 : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

d1dgreat1

-1 votes NegativePositive

299 days 13 hours ago...

In nature, there is a system of checks and balance. Evolution!

So evolve, accept that there is no GOD, and move on to solve the worlds pressing needs.

Islamisalie : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

Islamisalie

1 votes NegativePositive

299 days 12 hours ago...

God: 0 Evolution: eh, who`s keeping score for evolution anymore?

If you want to see natural selection in humans, watch the opening of idiocracy. So accurate it`s frightening.

PHINKS : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

PHINKS

-2 votes NegativePositive

299 days 12 hours ago...

God appeared into my dream last night telling me that a new race of twitchers will appear and i am to lead them out of bondage.

JustSomeGuy : LVL 30: VP 3.9: said:

JustSomeGuy

3 votes NegativePositive

299 days 11 hours ago...

Who cares if God exists?

If he does... great

If he doesn`t... who cares?

The state of the world, the lack of intervention, the core systems (in nature) that exist that work against the idea of a safe, prosperous civilization (hurricanes, disease, floods etc..), either proves he does not exist or does not have emotions.

If God doesn`t exist or has no emotion, why should I care?

Becoming a better person should be the motivator of any faith, or lack thereof.

Religion has been the motivator for some of the most despicable events in human history. On the other hand, some of the shadiest injustices have been committed by those who have absolutely no faith whatsoever.

So again, Why should I care? I don`t want to be associated with EITHER group. I just want to continue on being a better person.

Why can`t you people, who live to prove their intelligence, get that? Why can`t you just BE a better person? Why use the lack of a god as an avenue to attack other people? Why use the existence of god to do the same?

I have yet to hear an argument against the existence of God that gives people a reason to be better without Him.

Your priorities are wrong and you only wish to have this discussion so that you can feel that you got one over on an idiot. As if that was something you should be proud of to begin with.

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