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For now, Jackson residents can wear their pants any way they want to.

The City Council voted 4-2 against a plan Tuesday that would have made it unlawful for people to wear pants below the waistline exposing their underwear.

The council members who voted against the saggy-pants ban said it likely was unconstitutional.

But Mayor Frank Melton, who joined the council meeting via telephone from Texas, said he will issue an executive order instituting the dress code.

"I certainly respect the Constitution," Melton said, "but we have some issues that are much bigger than the Constitution."

Councilman Kenneth Stokes sponsored the saggy-pants ordinance. He said many of the young men who wear saggy pants also get in trouble at school or with police.

He said the ordinance was an attempt to "save all the children we can."

"In these neighborhoods, they're showing their naked behinds," Stokes said. "It's embarrassing."

While many of the other council members agreed that saggy pants are undesirable, most said the ordinance likely would violate the U.S. Constitution.

The office of the city attorney released a three-page memo examining whether the ordinance was lawful. It says "it would be doubtful that (the ordinance) would pass constitutional muster."

With that legal opinion in hand, Councilman Marshand Crisler said it would be unproductive to approve the ordinance.

"It would be a waste of time, paper and our resources to do that," he said.

Other communities have passed ordinances banning saggy pants, including Delcambre and Mansfield in Louisiana. In Riviera Beach, Fla., voters passed a referendum in support of a saggy-pants ban, but a judge has said he thinks the ban is unconstitutional and released an offender from jail.

Jackson police officials have been noncommittal when discussing whether officers have time to respond to saggy-pants offenders.

When reached after Tuesday's meeting, Assistant Chief Lee Vance said: "Whatever city ordinances are passed by the council or mayor, we will do our best to enforce them."

Melton said his executive order will not call on offenders to be put in jail. Instead, he said he envisions police officers taking young men with sagging pants home to their parents to talk about the problem.

The mayor said it's a change worth fighting for.

"I am willing to go to court on this particular issue," said Melton, who was at home in Texas with his family recovering from heart problems. He is expected to return to Jackson later this week.

Melton has been in and out of the hospital three times since November. He has been diagnosed with end-stage cardiomyopathy, a serious condition that prevents the heart from properly pumping blood.

Melton is scheduled to stand trial in federal court next month on civil rights charges related to a police-style raid on a Jackson duplex in 2006.

The state attorney general's office has not issued an opinion on whether the mayor has the authority to outlaw saggy pants through executive order.

The office of Attorney General Jim Hood has come out against some past attempts by Melton to legislate with executive order. For example, Hood's office issued an opinion saying the mayor could not ban gun shows through executive order.

Council President Leslie Burl McLemore said he thinks Hood would come out against this order as well.

"I really don't think the executive order the mayor issues will be worth the paper it's printed on," he said.

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Big_Boss : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

Big_Boss

29 votes NegativePositive

313 days 5 hours ago...

see guys this proves that our tax dollars are hard at work....... oh wait

cavey : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

cavey

29 votes NegativePositive

313 days 4 hours ago...

Next take away video games, music, and films.... then they will start behaving!

PizzaBoi : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

PizzaBoi

Hidden (Show Comment) -28 votes

313 days 4 hours ago...

What next? A law that makes everyone wear a collared, tucked-in shirts, a tie, and return to the 50`s? Piss off.

I swear, sometimes you white people do things just so us minorities can laugh at you harder.

geoblaze (Admin) : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

geoblaze

31 votes NegativePositive

313 days 3 hours ago...

^ lol racism

Tajumera : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

Tajumera

45 votes NegativePositive

313 days 2 hours ago...

^ It`s only racism if committed by a white guy, silly.

LunarStrain : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

LunarStrain

Hidden (Show Comment) -19 votes

313 days 2 hours ago...

^ I sure hope you`re being sarcastic Tajumera (I`m 99% sure that you`re being sarcastic ) otherwise you`d be the biggest ignorant on earth :) .


PizzaBoi : I`m not even going to point out the irony here ;) I`ll let you browse the videos in here and hope you realize how ironic your comment was .

scruples : LVL 23: VP 3.2: said:

scruples

4 votes NegativePositive

313 days 2 hours ago...

It all starts with the saggy pants...and before you know it, they be takin our gold chains away!.

Phanto : LVL 42: VP 5: said:

Phanto

16 votes NegativePositive

313 days 1 hour ago...

"He said many of the young men who wear saggy pants also get in trouble at school or with police."

So according to him, it is wearing saggy pants that makes them act like troublemakers?

I find the idea of having saggy pants completely stupid. But it is still not as stupid as trying to ban fashion trends.

In 5 years, saggy pants will be considered "old" and "ridiculous" by everyone anyway.

northern_tide : LVL 28: VP 3.7: said:

northern_tide

2 votes NegativePositive

313 days ago...

its a social statement, that you cant afford a regular size pants so you buy the cheap oversize ones.

assmaster : LVL 44: VP 5: said:

assmaster

3 votes NegativePositive

312 days 23 hours ago...

I say let them keep their saggy pants. It`s all the easier to pull their pants down to their ankles and run. It`s that much easier to win a fight when the other guy keeps falling over his pants.

anoniem : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

anoniem

2 votes NegativePositive

312 days 19 hours ago...

i don`t sag my pants. i think it looks dumb.
but issuing an executive order or making a law banning it?..
that`s just fucking retarded. plain and simple

stbasdf : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

stbasdf

5 votes NegativePositive

312 days 18 hours ago...

dr who?

mufasa1023 : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

mufasa1023

0 votes NegativePositive

312 days 16 hours ago...

I have no doubt the ACLU would swoop down and rip mister mayor a new one in court if anyone is prosecuted/fined under this ordinance.

FYAD : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

FYAD

4 votes NegativePositive

312 days 14 hours ago...

"I certainly respect the Constitution," Melton said, "but we have some issues that are much bigger than the Constitution."

Yes. Saggy Pants. Go Go Gadget unordered priorities.

Tada : LVL 42: VP 5: said:

Tada

1 votes NegativePositive

312 days 13 hours ago...

"He said many of the young men who wear saggy pants also get in trouble at school or with police."

Obviously it`s the pants that make them break the law.

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