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Rap music originated in the medieval taverns of Scotland rather than the mean streets of the Bronx and Brooklyn, an American academic has claimed.

Professor Ferenc Szasz argued that so-called rap battles, where two or more performers trade elaborate insults, derive from the ancient Caledonian art of "flyting".

According to the theory, Scottish slave owners took the tradition with them to the United States, where it was adopted and developed by slaves, emerging many years later as rap.

Professor Szasz is convinced there is a clear link between this tradition for settling scores in Scotland and rap battles, which were famously portrayed in Eminem's 2002 movie 8 Mile.

He said: "The Scots have a lengthy tradition of flyting - intense verbal jousting, often laced with vulgarity, that is similar to the dozens that one finds among contemporary inner-city African-American youth.

"Both cultures accord high marks to satire. The skilled use of satire takes this verbal jousting to its ultimate level - one step short of a fist fight."

The academic, who specialises in American and Scottish culture at the University of New Mexico, made the link in a new study examining the historical context of Robert Burn's work.

The most famous surviving example of flyting comes from a 16th-century piece in which two rival poets hurl increasingly obscene rhyming insults at one another before the Court of King James IV.

Titled the Flyting Of Dunbar And Kennedy, it has been described by academics as "just over 500 lines of filth".

Professor Szasz cites an American civil war poem, printed in the New York Vanity Fair magazine on November 9, 1861, as the first recorded example of the battles being used in the United States.

Professor Willie Ruff, of Yale University, agreed that Scottish slave owners had a profound impact on the development of African American music traditions.

Comparing flyting and rap battles, he said: "Two people engage in ritual verbal duelling and the winner has the last word in the argument, with the loser falling conspicuously silent."

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hunterdfc : LVL 30: VP 3.9: said:

hunterdfc

27 votes NegativePositive

325 days 12 hours ago...

you learn something new every day O_O

ecko69x : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

ecko69x

29 votes NegativePositive

325 days 12 hours ago...

Not like it really matters anyway. Rap is still Rap.

zorgon17 : LVL 16: VP 2.5: said:

zorgon17

34 votes NegativePositive

325 days 12 hours ago...

Not like it really matters anyway. Rap is still shit.
Fixt

yunalenne10 : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

yunalenne10

18 votes NegativePositive

325 days 12 hours ago...

"Professor Szasz is convinced there is a clear link between this tradition for settling scores in Scotland and rap battles, which were famously portrayed in Eminem`s 2002 movie 8 Mile."

Does the guy mean to say that Eminem is Scottish?

srk : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

srk

7 votes NegativePositive

325 days 12 hours ago...

ya mean rap music arrived from Scottish lads spitting yer mama jokes at each-othe?

smooth_stalin : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

smooth_stalin

7 votes NegativePositive

325 days 5 hours ago...

Rap Is Crap

Angry_Naked_Ant : LVL 24: VP 3.3: said:

Angry_Naked_Ant

0 votes NegativePositive

325 days 3 hours ago...

Gizzie yer fockin jacket
Or I`ll deck yer bonce wid a racket
Yer goin doon nah laddy
Like Rupert, Rhys and Paddy

Jones436 : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

Jones436

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325 days 3 hours ago...

Don`t be dissin rap yo.

geoblaze (Admin) : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

geoblaze

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325 days 2 hours ago...

silly me, thinking that Rap came from hiphop, and hip hop came after the harlem riots, where mixing boards were looted, and were used to start hip-hop (as previously mixing boards were too expensive for the harlem-area).

Guess history lied to me =(

boldfart : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

boldfart

-3 votes NegativePositive

324 days 23 hours ago...

Given that it originated somewhere does it matter who gets the blame?

ChrissyChiChi : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

ChrissyChiChi

1 votes NegativePositive

324 days 22 hours ago...

I remember a while ago seeing a program on `rap battles`. It was unintentionally pretty hilarious..they had an interview with some guy who took himself far too seriously and claimed to be an expert who said something along the lines of getting beaten up is one thing, you can heal those wounds easily and the damage is just superficial, but getting beaten in a rap battle destroys your soul and eats away at you for years..it then cut to a clip of two grown men pretty much just saying your mum is so fat to each other..fucking genious!
Along with wrestling and pee wee herman getting arrested for jacking off in public rap battles are one of the funniest things to ever happen to mankind...

Hoemo : LVL 13: VP 2.2: said:

Hoemo

0 votes NegativePositive

324 days 21 hours ago...

FO shO Homie, saran rap is the shit

justchillin67891 : LVL 27: VP 3.6: said:

justchillin67891

4 votes NegativePositive

323 days 20 hours ago...

haha i remember my music teachers in school told me will smith started rap.

ballbag : LVL 23: VP 3.2: said:

ballbag

-1 votes NegativePositive

323 days 8 hours ago...

i thought rap came from funk, which came from jazz, which came from new orleans...which was full of slaves....who were black.

this is retarded....rap has nothing to do with europeans mouthing each other off in tights.

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