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Takes a little while to start up but its a pretty interesting perspective on the world today.

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Metalobserver : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

Metalobserver

8 votes NegativePositive

340 days 16 hours ago...

I guess we will never be free -sigh-

Omnicron.4735 : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

Omnicron.4735

13 votes NegativePositive

340 days 14 hours ago...

"Ex-post facto" means "After the fact"

I would submit that there are few "reasonable / courageous" people out there.
People, as a whole, are panicky, irrational, and stubborn. Unwilling to exit their "comfort zones".
If we are to truly wake up, we will have to take great risks and accept tremendous sacrifices.
Most people today are to asleep to even contemplate such action.

Alive : LVL 15: VP 2.4: said:

Alive

6 votes NegativePositive

340 days 10 hours ago...

well, mankind screwed up badly.
i think it would have been the best move to stay hunter and gatherer tribes.

HairyLikeAnimal : LVL 29: VP 3.8: said:

HairyLikeAnimal

Hidden (Show Comment) -34 votes

340 days 7 hours ago...

nah im not wasting 16 mins of my life listening to some geek talk about the matrix and the world. sorry

computermexican : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

computermexican

5 votes NegativePositive

340 days 4 hours ago...

Shout out to my peeps @7:28!

The Living End : LVL 54: VP 5: said:

The Living End

7 votes NegativePositive

339 days 21 hours ago...

Your loss Hairy.

That was pretty interesting. I don`t agree with everything he was saying, but it makes you think nonetheless.

Also, the narrator sounds like a mix of Graham Norton and Edward Roivas from the game `Eternal Darkness`.

exploder : LVL 48: VP 5: said:

exploder

10 votes NegativePositive

339 days 18 hours ago...

Brilliant. Terribly done, but absolutely brilliant. I think this needs to be remade in a format that is watchable and understandable by more than just we few losers.

I never quite put the equation together in that direct way, but have been thinking about our own selective breeding program, resulting in a new subspecies Homo Sapiens Domestica (sheeple). And no I`m not joking. Cows, pigs, sheep, goats, chickens, dogs, cats, horses, ducks, rabbits... we are fellow animals on the farm, and our mating allowances are neither free. 15000 years of obediance breeding obediance accounts for our own worst enemies amongst us.

And so we try to free our minds, but how to truly escape or close the farms?

Can we evolve beyond this menace? How?

On a counter note, I wonder this:

People are successfull, and have multiplied. Of course, we associate. Good or bad, we do what little we know, and thus we are doing our current societies, with whatever organisational principles we have. Is the intent actually to farm humans? I cannot argue that this is not very much indeed precisely what we have done. But I doubt that it is our greater intent. What else can we do then? I observe that it is, albiet perhaps in other words, very much the inevitable intent of whoever can profit by it. I see that this has been one of the primary organisational motivations throughout history. But can we escape this, or is it simply the only possible outcome to an asymmetrical world? Can we escape this, or must we, can we, perfect it?

wizguy34 : LVL 28: VP 3.7: said:

wizguy34

7 votes NegativePositive

336 days 12 hours ago...

Anyone heard of Animal Farm. Sounds similar.

More serious though, For further reading try Howard Zinn A people`s American history. He nailed all this stuff. Most of it talks about what really happened throughout our history but towards the end he starts talking about the ruling elites being protected by the "guardians" or middle class. It is a very good read if anyone wants to take the red pill and wake up.I actually use that statement a lot when I try to explain stuff to "sheeple".

wizguy34 : LVL 28: VP 3.7: said:

wizguy34

6 votes NegativePositive

336 days 11 hours ago...

I also read about propaganda being used by creditors against debtors using bankruptcy. I am filing for bankruptcy and started reading everything I could get my hands on. The majority of books I read were about how people are scared to file, even though it is in the constitution, because of the propaganda. Propaganda such as how it will hurt your credit score. This brings to full circle the argument of keeping people perpetually in debt to the banks.

Connecting the dots will help in seeing the light. Good luck.

Mr. Snickits : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

Mr. Snickits

4 votes NegativePositive

335 days 10 hours ago...

I really enjoyed that! I believe a great deal of what he had to say, although the video itself was biased and a bit manipulative in the photos shown while using words to emphasise those photos. But every video along these lines does the same, so it really isnt a big deal.

was anybody else annoyed at all the constant midline pauses. You could have shaved off 2-3 minutes of that by simply taking out pauses that were used to emphasise words. Just use tone inflection to emphasise words. Haha that really annoyed me...

Monocle_Man : LVL 11: VP 2: said:

Monocle_Man

5 votes NegativePositive

335 days 10 hours ago...

Animal Farm is an allegory for the Soviet Union and it`s by George Orwell who also wrote Nineteen Eighty-Four. If you haven`t read it yet, you damn well should. This video really doesn`t propose anything new, except it`s farm analogy and annoying voice over.

Nothing much has changed since the time of kings, the bureaucracy remains in place, the only difference is they let us "choose" who our leaders are so that we feel like we have the power. I think they`re right, there is a system, or a matrix but I think it is less sinister then they make it out to be. Its really just naturally evolved over time and is less deliberate.

My question though is, if i am technically free, does it matter what "their" intent for my freedom is? They kept saying we`re only "free" so that we can be more productive.

Dallaman : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

Dallaman

1 votes NegativePositive

335 days 10 hours ago...

im a designer, i propagate statism by sugarcoating it. i am guilty

Vizreel : LVL 41: VP 4.9: said:

Vizreel

0 votes NegativePositive

335 days 9 hours ago...

Although I agree with moth of his concepts the guy makes 2 incredibly big mistakes (considering how well made this video was in comparison):

1) Who benefits? The answer is: no one.

He keeps talking about the ruling class. Picture this: you`ve got a guy working in a firm. That firm has a boss and thus that boss is the ruling class compared to the worker. But this boss cannot be part of the ruling class because the firm had to be made through work and can always we superceded by an even stronger firm the result of which being the boss has to work for the bigger boss... If you`re not braindead you can see for a mile away where`s I`m going with this: each boss has his own boss and so on and so forth. But through my logic, this chain reaction has to have an end factor, the final boss.

Ok, now we know we have a final boss and he has complete power over everybody. This guy would be the "ruling class that benefits" as it is mentioned in the video. And by the very definition of freedom explained in the video, he is the only free man. But answer this: if he is truly free, then why is the ruler of everyone else? The contradiction is right there, freedom is not being a slave and not being productive as someone else reaps from your sweat.

The final boss has to rule not to go back to slavery but what about this verb, "ruling"? Well, a slave as presented has to produce something, to perform a task that other greater slaves can reap the benefits of: farmer grows corn, corn is sold by salesmen, salesmen are organized by a manager, and a manager dictates. That is the product of a ruler, the ability to govern so somebody else shouldn`t have to do it. And if the final boss is the end of the line, what about his product? Who reaps from it? Again, NO ONE

Vizreel : LVL 41: VP 4.9: said:

Vizreel

1 votes NegativePositive

335 days 9 hours ago...

2)It presents this slave-world today as if it`s part of one massive conspiracy, which is completely wrong.

This is nothing no one could have predicted. Yes, I agree: we are all slaves BUT it`s not about choice, it`s about inevitability. This is the big picture. We as humans tried to improve our lives through knowledge and promoting free-thinking, etc. To make myself more clear, think about what freedom means to you? Then think about what freedom means to someone you know? Ok, now think about what freedom means to people like Adolf Hitler? See how these concepts dissect one another? One man`s freedom means another man`s slavery so in effect to make them both free we have to moderate freedom because it`s FAIR and it`s the altruistic thing to do, you know: SHARE.

Do onto others as you would like others to do onto you (I forgot what philosopher said this, sorry). This is in my opinion the only single rule that should be enforced in a perfect yet moderately free society. If you agree then I ask you this: If you agree not to harm anybody because you don`t want harm done onto you, wouldn`t this make you A SLAVE to the others around you? You constantly have to modify your actions out of respect for the others. And here we come back to my former point: this slavery that we face is nothing but inevitable, we cannot exist without it, it`s the thing that keeps us together, society as a whole, freedom is the anarchic factor that would destroy everything we ever worked for to accomplish (and how sweet it sounds sometimes).

This video doesn`t come to a solution because the guy who made it couldn`t obviously think of one. Nor could you, nor could I simply because we humans weren`t meant to be completely free in the first place, and we were bread and raised accordingly. Given the choice between what we have now and uncertainty we would most likely pick the familiar. Humans are social beings, negating society (ie society what it is today) contradicts our very nature. Society is "modern" slavery, "modern" slavery is a part of us, throw it away and everything goes down, we`ll simply disappear as a species.


also I just found out there`s a word limit... wtf, spiked?

cronopio911 : LVL 4: VP 1.3: said:

cronopio911

3 votes NegativePositive

335 days 4 hours ago...

Well, this is interesting, and it makes some good points, however, I don`t agree with the `government conspiracy` part. Shure, I agree that many governments oppress citizens and mankind is driven by productivity, but not because there`s an evil group of geniuses planing how to control us all, but rather, because mankind as a system, evolved in this way. No man, bright as he might be, could have planed how our world works. Our world works how it does, because it has evolved to become what it is now and we are all ruled by the primitive powers of nature.

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