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I am NOT for prop 8. I think that everyone should love who they wish to love, and be recognized by law. But the same-sex supporters outside this courthouse destroyed their own message today.

  • geoblaze
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  • Date 11/21/2008 7:15:52 PM
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geoblaze : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

geoblaze

7 votes NegativePositive

381 days 18 hours ago...

Since i can`t seem to edit the description: What i should mention is this.

I`m all for same-sex couples being recognized by law (Even if it`s not called marriage). However, i also beleive in free speech (i`m a canadian, so it`s not our first ammendment out here).

But when you are a group of people trying to make others ACCEPT your views and opinions, you RUIN any chances of being taken seriously when you physically assault your opposition. Especially when you attack an elderly woman. If she was a 25 year old woman, i would still be disgusted, but not so much.

No matter what your opinion or views are, there is always a universal rule: You do NOT attack those whom are helpless. That means children, the elderly, pregnant women, the mentally-incapable, and anyone else physically or mentally incapable of defending themselves, or by defending themselves run a risk of losing their life.

My two cents on the subject.

Max_Power : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

Max_Power

2 votes NegativePositive

381 days 18 hours ago...

I guess I missed where they attacked her . . . I saw them knock her cross out of her hand, which may have crossed a line, sure. But that doesn`t seem like they meant her physical harm. Maybe the altercation continued after the video ended. I will add that it was tremendously stupid what she did, unless she was trying to provoke an attack. From what I could see, the first direct physical transgression happened in response to her cross getting knocked down from, presumably, one of the woman`s friends or someone she was there with directed at a gay man in the crowd.

geoblaze : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

geoblaze

4 votes NegativePositive

381 days 17 hours ago...

Max_Power: Attacking someone is not just physical. However, even doing what they did can still be considered assault. If i ripped your glasses from your face (if you wear glasses), it would be considered the same thing.

However, you are right, that is the only example of a physical assault. The rest is verbal, and to be honest, reminds me of a school yard fight. Everyone is circled around the two fighting, and the crowd starts chanting and poking fun of the loser.

I don`t beleive the actions in that video remotely resemble the way that all gay people act. Nor do i think that this is the norm for those who commited these acts. Prop 8 going through was a big kick in the ass for alot of them, and i`m sure i would take to the streets if something that ment alot to me was barred by law.

wizguy34 : LVL 26: VP 3.5: said:

wizguy34

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381 days 17 hours ago...

It was right at the end. Someone came behind her and started punching or slaping her.

Serves her right. What an a-hole walking right in front of them. She was totally provoking all of them. I don`t care how old or stupid you are. If you know enough or have courage enough to be an a-hole then you deserve to be ruffed up.

Everyone has the right to be treated as equals. FUK those religious nuts. I say kill all religious people and then we can get our civilization working again. AMEN.

daantec : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

daantec

3 votes NegativePositive

381 days 15 hours ago...

lmao that asian girl got raped by those white guys. even though there gay.

maark : LVL 28: VP 3.7: said:

maark

1 votes NegativePositive

381 days 15 hours ago...

^there not gay, they`re gay.

what do 2 sticks together in the form of a cross have to do with people getting married? jesus needs to stay in his churches and not in other peoples` lives. otherwise, religion is a fishy cunt.

rocknrollray : LVL 20: VP 2.9: said:

rocknrollray

3 votes NegativePositive

381 days 14 hours ago...

All I know is that if someone told me I couldn`t marry, I`d also throw a fit, especially of they were holding a cross.

Besides what does that old cunt care, she`s almost dead. She`s just being annoying. Her Husband probably left her for another man.

HarryPlopper : LVL 11: VP 2: said:

HarryPlopper

-1 votes NegativePositive

381 days 12 hours ago...

People were getting married b4 Jesus came along Marrige has been around for 1000000000000000000 of years and has been around 100000000000 years before Jesus and (B)why do you want to get married and call it MARIGE but if gay people get married you want to name it Civil Union even if according to non gays it same thing if it same then you can also have civila unions
2. IF YOUR GOING TO FORCE YOUR JESUS BS VIEWS ON PEOPLE BE READY TO HAVE PEOPLE FORCE THERE VIEWS ON YOU( Cross Being knocked out of her hand)

Omeko : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

Omeko

1 votes NegativePositive

381 days 9 hours ago...

Gays and Republicans....Great stuff.

delt_osvp : LVL 45: VP 5: said:

delt_osvp

0 votes NegativePositive

381 days 2 hours ago...

if people marry dogs and comic book figures i dont see y gays shouldent marry

tokentiki : LVL 47: VP 5: said:

tokentiki

2 votes NegativePositive

380 days 22 hours ago...

I say let them get married but no legal rights and no children. They want to get married so they can adopt. Most people in child care will agree that it`s best for the child to not be put into that situation. I`ve dated a girl with a 2 mom set-up and I did hear a lot of venting about it. You put the kid in a bad position with social situation...I mean you might not have anyone over your house in fear of people finding out....and I don`t care how open to things you are your going to get shit on at school once they do. It`s easy to tell them to go to school and ignore the haters but it`s different to be the person hated on for something you probably don`t agree with yourself. I know this is only one example(a true one) but it`s something I don`t think any kid should have to deal with.

Batman! : LVL 41: VP 4.9: said:

Batman!

3 votes NegativePositive

380 days 3 hours ago...

^You are a moron.

What a bunch of bullshit. They didn`t destroy anything. They dealt with some bigots the way they deserved.

Oh my god! Not her cross! That`s SACRED!(Sarcasm) Fuck her religion and fuck her. If she shows up to a rally like that with a cross and sign shes lucky not to be torn apart.

klavlav : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

klavlav

2 votes NegativePositive

379 days 10 hours ago...

Tokentiki,

With all due respect, I am a currently a teacher and, while doing my PhD dissertation in Child Development, Education, & Pedagogy, I taught prospective teachers. I can say that the claim you made about what "most people in child care" say is groundless.

The vast, vast majority of research out there dealing with children raised in same-sex families has shown that the children in question suffer no ill consequences from that upbringing. They may suffer discrimination from bigots in their midst, and in this way they have much in common with children of mixed-race families, poor families etc.

But that is exactly why Gays deserve equal rights; in countries like Holland where Gay marriage is legal and mostly accepted, the children of such families do fine.

It is the role of a conscientious government to ensure the welfare of those children by supporting all families, Gay and non-Gay, not contributing to discrimination by privileging one over the other.

Oferphuxake : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

Oferphuxake

-2 votes NegativePositive

370 days 17 hours ago...

"They dealt with some bigots the way they deserved."

That`s telling: folks who use insults like "racist" and "bigot" believe that if you disagree with them, you deserve to be assaulted.

So much for free speech.

tokentiki : LVL 47: VP 5: said:

tokentiki

0 votes NegativePositive

366 days 20 hours ago...

klavlav I took that information from a child development specialist. Also as I stated in my previous comment I had a girlfriend that I dated for about 3 years with a 2 mother setup. I`d pretty much have to say that it affected almost every aspect of her life. There is NO way you can convince me that she had no ill consequences b/c I saw it, heard it, and held those consequences on my shoulder numerous times. I`m not saying her parents where bad people...in fact they where really nice and supportive. What lies within is a different story.

So yea I guess if your laying in bed and hear a buzzing sound and it freaks you out you probably have gay parents. I don`t have that problem...but according to you that`s not something you think affects the child....though firsthand I have seen it...

I`m not saying your wrong or anything, but it bothers me when people sit there with all your educational background but you`ve never actually seen it with your own eyes. It`s like a drug counselor that`s never done drugs before.

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