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Richard Dawkins - God, A Logical Fail

An excerpt from Chapter 2 of The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. Professor Dawkins discusses the creator of the Universe - the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM), blessed be his noodly appendages. Professor Richard Dawkins acknowledges that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is "UNDISPROVABLE" at 3:19....Ramen. For some reason he also mentions Gods that aren`t real.

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sato : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

sato

30 votes NegativePositive

78 days 23 hours ago...

screw this blasphemy, i know the flying spaghetti monster is real!

Batman! : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

Batman!

5 votes NegativePositive

78 days 21 hours ago...

Wotan give me strength AND berserker rage!

How does he know I`m an atheist when it comes to the Norse gods. Those are the only ones I believe in.

zaiyar : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

zaiyar

5 votes NegativePositive

78 days 8 hours ago...

LOL, religion.

rybear4513 : LVL 26: VP 3.5: said:

rybear4513

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78 days 6 hours ago...

i pray for all you sinners

MysticMan : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

MysticMan

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78 days 2 hours ago...

0:10 looks like a creepy uncle you would never let a child near.

Always has that smug "i know i am smarter than those "beleivers" smile

Why do atheists especially Dick keep pushing that god is not real? Afraid that god Might be real? if you try not to beleive in something hard enough you think it pops out of existance?

I think Dick is just trying to get Beleivers off side. Doesn`t Dick and other atheists have anything else better to do in their spare time? The reason people tease others is to get a reaction from them.

What i have noticed with these "god is not real" docos is evolutionists like to make "Religous" people look wacky, take their belief out on context to make it really stupid and mock their belief, but hate it when religious people mock evolution. Take some of your own shit. If you can dish it out, you can take some back. I hate this finger pointing and putting down but neither side can accept the mocking and putting down they receive. If you dont want to be put down dont do it yourself.

If atheiets think "believers" are nutty just for beleiving in god why try and make them look even worse, who you trying to convince?

The worst way to argue your side is by putting the other side down. Seems like dick has run out of evolution theories and starts attacking the "beleivers" faith. Has he ever answered; why does he keep atacking "Beleivers"?

At least half of all the clips i have seen of dicks he is visiting beleivers to tell them how wacky their idea is and to tell them they are wrong. He wants them to think "What if you are wrong" i understand that, but has dick ever thought that about his own belief?

Is there a show out there where dick questions his own belief, that he might be wrong?

It seems like on both sides, creationists and evolutionists, the people who are not 100% about what they beleive need to put down the other side, mock the other side, need to defend their side, and always argue for their side.

The ones who really beleive in god or evolution have nothing to argue about because they know in their heart their belief is true.

Do you think Jesus or Charles Dawin (what ever you beleive) would keep arguing their side and putting down the other? (even though it was just a theory with dawin, he really beleived it to be true)

Euthphyro : LVL 20: VP 2.9: said:

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78 days 1 hour ago...

More masterbation material for the intolerent.

LeighCedar : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

LeighCedar

11 votes NegativePositive

77 days 20 hours ago...

?
You two see it as intolerent, but I see it as simply putting religion in the same category as opinions. We are all allowed to question each others opinions on politics, art, music, clothes... religion should be no different.

And Mystic man, yes he has questioned his beliefs. He grew up religious for one thing. Secondly science is always questioning itself, and he keeps up on the latest science.

MysticMan : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

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77 days 20 hours ago...

"And Mystic man, yes he has questioned his beliefs. "

Where does he question is beliefs?

"He grew up religious for one thing"

What are you trying to say there? he questions if what he got taught as a child and what his parents taught him was true?

"Secondly science is always questioning itself,"

When it comes to evolution it does not. Questioning in support of evolution, eg "how does this work with evolution?", "how can we connect this to evolution?" but not "what if we are wrong?, where do we go then?" "what if we are going about this all wrong?" etc

With every other scientific field they question themselves negativly all the time to see if they are on the right track (no it is not thinking negativly) they just dont want science to be discredited if they are wrong, if you know science they just dont stick with one test they re do it over and over again to better learn.


Yes you are allowed to question religion, questioning everything is good, you learn. But there is a difference between question to understand and question just to mock, and not wanting to know the answer.

You say every evolutionists i have mentioned were brought up in religion. That does not mean they know all about god or the bible, (as you make them sound, as i they are knowledgable about both sides) it just means they know church is all about following a man doing what the man (minister) says or he threatens you with "hell" and not letting you do your own study and just listen.

"We are all allowed to question each others opinions on politics, art, music, clothes... religion should be no different"

Neither should evolution, but people dont like it when i question it. Because i ask question things others just take as truth, they think i am trying to cause trouble and are defensive. I got the exact same treatment from ministers when i question there word. I used to go to youth camps to socialise, but was not welcomed back after several camp because the younger ones looked up to me and i was getting them to think for themselves, and i told ministers were wrong for treating the younger ones they way they did.

So many people get defensive when you question their belief in very fine detail. I dont mind it, ask away, you have not asked about my belief, i dont think you want to learn.

psychologyprofessor : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

psychologyprofessor

12 votes NegativePositive

77 days 16 hours ago...

FUNDAMENTALISM AND THE
SUBVERSION OF SCIENCE

Fundamentalists know they are right because they have read the truth in a holy book and they know, in advance, that nothing will budge them from their belief. The truth of the holy book is an axiom, not the end product of a process of reasoning. The book is true, and if the evidence seems to contradict it, it is the evidence that must be thrown out, not the book. By contrast, what I, as a scientist, believe (for example, evolution) I believe not because of reading a holy book but because I have studied the evidence. It really is a very different matter. Books about evolution are believed not because they are holy. They are believed because they present overwhelming quantities of mutually buttressed evidence. In principle, any reader can go and check that evidence. When a science book is wrong, somebody eventually discovers the mistake and it is corrected in subsequent books. That conspicuously doesn`t happen with holy books.

I am no more fundamentalist when I say evolution is true than when I say it is true that New Zealand is in the southern hemisphere. We believe in evolution because the evidence supports it, and we would abandon it overnight if new evidence arose to disprove it. No real fundamentalist would ever say anything like that. It is all too easy to confuse fundamentalism with passion. I may well appear passionate when I defend evolution against a fundamentalist creationist, but this is not because of a rival fundamentalism of my own. It is because the evidence for evolution is overwhelmingly strong and I am passionately distressed that my opponent can`t see it - or, more usually, refuses to look at it because it contradicts his holy book. My passion is increased when I think about how much the poor fundamentalists, and those whom they influence, are missing. The truths of evolution, along with many other scientific truths, are so engrossingly fascinating and beautiful; how truly tragic to die having missed out on all that! Of course that makes me passionate. How could it not? But my belief in evolution is not fundamentalism, and it is not faith, because I know what it would take to change my mind, and I would gladly do so if the necessary evidence were forthcoming.

RICHARD DAWKINS, THE GOD DELUSION

Here is a link to Richard’s book:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/d31dd760-c3f0-4318-8dd2-d00fb91799eb/Richa
rd.Dawkins.-.The.God.Delusion.(2006)

Euthphyro : LVL 20: VP 2.9: said:

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77 days 16 hours ago...

^ Did you cum yet?

psychologyprofessor : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

psychologyprofessor

8 votes NegativePositive

77 days 13 hours ago...

^^ *gasp* How rude...

DoctorRandomercam : LVL 30: VP 3.9: said:

DoctorRandomercam

3 votes NegativePositive

77 days 11 hours ago...

I`m sick of arguing about whether or not God exists. The argument itself is wrong. Both sides agree and have always agreed that the existence of God is something that by definition cannot be proved or disproved. So why are we arguing about it? If we all agree that God can`t be proved or disproved, why aren`t we focussing on that? WE ALL AGREE ON SOMETHING! We`ve got a new world order here, right under our noses - The universal church of "We don`t know. We haven`t got the slightest fucking scooby what`s going on. We`re just having hilarious, bottomless arguments about nothing. We`re a hamster on a wheel, we`re a Donkey with a carrot, and we`ll die just as blissfully oblivious as we lived."

DoctorRandomercam : LVL 30: VP 3.9: said:

DoctorRandomercam

4 votes NegativePositive

77 days 11 hours ago...

Our conceptual entity, who art or art not in heaven or indeed anywhere.
Hallowed (justifiably or otherwise) be thy name (if you have one.)
Thy Kingdom (or Queendom) come (or abstain)
Thy will be done (or manifested as it is in chaotic patterns)
On Earth as it is figuratively encompassed by the idea of Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread... uh... are we all okay with bread? Yeah? We all like bread? Cool. Let`s get some bread. Oh and some orange juice. Everyone loves a bit of OJ.
Forgive us our trespasses, if indeed any of us did any trespassing or indeed if we care.
Forgive those who trespass against us if you like, but it`s our business so we`ll deal with it our own way with your help or not, right?
Lead us not into temptation, or just lead us not.
If you do have the means, or indeed the motive to deliver us anywhere, please direct us away from our personally preconceived ideas of evil.
For thine is the infinity of worlds that tumbles around outside the realms of reason and reality and anything at all that is either the concern or the domain of such an insignificant (albeit improbable) species.
The power of imagination and the glory of ignorance.
For whatever, and whatever.
Ah yeah.

MysticMan : LVL 22: VP 3.1: said:

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77 days 6 hours ago...

"The book is true, and if the evidence seems to contradict it, it is the evidence that must be thrown out"

Can’t you see that is how evolutionists think as well? Why keep putting atheists higher than other beliefs? We are all equal.

"By contrast, what I, as a scientist, believe "

That evolution is a religion and a faith (by definition from the oxford dictionary, now you can’t dismiss oxford seeing Dick taught there), and evolution should be questioned to the full existent as all theories are.

"because they present overwhelming quantities of mutually buttressed evidence"

PLEASE show me and not just someone’s hearsay and conjecture. We want the same evidence of evolution as you do of god. PHYSCIAL FIRSTHAND evidence. Seems like none of you can see the arguments are exactly the same, you just can’t get out of your head that your right and we are all wrong.

All you do is post statement after statement saying how evolution has so much evidence and then post links to a site with writing on it. How is that different from people using the bible has evidence? Open your mind and see the questions you ask are the same we ask of your belief.

"When a science book is wrong, somebody eventually discovers the mistake and it is corrected in subsequent books. That conspicuously doesn`t happen with holy books."

That does not happen with anything to do with evolution.
Are you saying evolution could be wrong and should be questioned?

"and we would abandon it overnight if new evidence arose to disprove it"

Anything that may go against evolution you dismiss and vice versa.

"RICHARD DAWKINS, THE GOD DELUSION"

Ever think that evolution may be a delusion people put on themselves because they do not want to be held accountable for their actions? Or be a lead by a higher power?

It really sounds like you dont want god to exist or scared he might exist. Why dont you want him to exist? if you dont care, let people beleive in god.

People say god is the higher power that controls everything. Evolutionists say Natural Selection is the controlling factor in evolution. Oh sound the same just a different name. Both have a higher controlling factor that is outside laws.

psychologyprofessor : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

psychologyprofessor

8 votes NegativePositive

77 days 4 hours ago...

^^ The theory of evolution has such credibility that to say otherwise is to show that you are stubbornly ignorant. You want evidence?? The evidence is a Google search away. I`m absolutely serious just type in "evidence for evolution". There are stacks and stacks and stacks and stacks of books on the subject. I mean seriously every biology class, every zoology class and any class that has to do with the study of life acknowledges the FACT of evolution. The evidence is a thousand fold, whether it be that of geology, zoology, biology, microbiology, virology, genetics, radio chemistry. People spend their whole careers on the subject and still further evidence is collected.

And as for the definition of evolution according to Oxford dictionary (which you mentioned earlier), it states:

evolution

• noun 1 the process by which different kinds of living organism are believed to have developed, especially by natural selection. 2 gradual development. 3 Chemistry the giving off of a gaseous product or of heat. 4 a pattern of movements or manoeuvres.

— DERIVATIVES evolutionarily adverb evolutionary adjective.

— ORIGIN Latin, ‘unrolling’, from evolvere (see EVOLVE).

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/evolution?view=uk

You Sir,

are a fool.

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