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BBC Truther Documentary 1/3

from a BBC investigation into 9/11 and the truther movement.
Part 2/Part 3.

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exploder : LVL 48: VP 5: said:

exploder

5 votes NegativePositive

63 days 5 hours ago...

This article, published in a civil engineering magazine, has one of the best debunkings I have ever seen. It sticks to the facts, and is very up to date:

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00000002
/00000001/35TOCIEJ.SGM

click the "download" link to read the .pdf

v fixed it, sorry.

fryser_d : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

fryser_d

0 votes NegativePositive

62 days 11 hours ago...

^ERROR: File NOT SPECIFIED.

:(

aandf : LVL 29: VP 3.8: said:

aandf

0 votes NegativePositive

59 days 22 hours ago...

Excellent; the truth about 9/11 Truthers.

mackler : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

mackler

6 votes NegativePositive

59 days 19 hours ago...

19 young hijackers eh??

Funny, 9 are still alive, maybe they jumped out of the planes b4 they hit there targets.

Tada : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

Tada

2 votes NegativePositive

59 days 19 hours ago...

What if neither Osama or Bush did it?

TheTamster : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

TheTamster

4 votes NegativePositive

59 days 18 hours ago...

ok americans dont seem to realise that ALL the evidence says it WAS AN INSIDE JOB,

now i will give you one reason that PROVES it, you have two options,

1:The official story is complete bullshit,

2:America wsa realy attacked by terrorists, and the american people are the most cowardly, weak, useless people on the planet (in general)

and here why i came to that conclusion,

BOX CUTTERS (or stanley knife if your british) now its a box cutter about 1 inch/ half in ch penetration MAXIMUM, yes the blade can go right out but it has no tensile strength meaning it would be useless,

A box cutter would be COMPLETELY non fatal with a single blow unless its A: a ninja holding it, B: they get a realy, REALY luck shot,
and lets bear in mind that theres 4 - hijackers and how many hundred people? so even if they WHERE ninjas and killed every bdy with a single hit, they would still have NOT A CHANCE IN HELL of getting control of that plane, NONE, unless of course all americans are complete total coward in every sense of the word (and i dont beleive that to be true)

so there you go, simple but effective application of common sense, and the same works FOR ALL ASPECTS of 911 and 77 (equaly as fake as 911, and for mostly the same reason, except the box cutter bit, would NEVER be beleivable in the UK)

so you guys can either wake the fuck up!

or accept that americans are the most cowardly people on the face of the earth!! (and again i dont beleive that myself, just trying to make a point)

daeve : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

daeve

5 votes NegativePositive

59 days 17 hours ago...

I really don`t have a strong opinion of this issue. however, I`d be inclined go against the American government on it though, because, lets face it - they`ve pretty much lied about everything else which has happened while they`ve been in power. Why would I treat 9/11 any different?

h0ser : LVL 30: VP 3.9: said:

h0ser

1 votes NegativePositive

59 days 17 hours ago...

I`ve seen all of the debunk videos and they haven`t changed my mind. There are too many pieces of the puzzle that show whatever story we were given by the government is wrong. That doesn`t mean that they were behind it, it just means it was wrong. They are wrong and won`t admit it, no matter what evidence flies in their face. It`s typical of a nation under God since their religion is based on a woman who was really good at sticking to her story "No i didn`t have sex with another man, it was god, please don`t stone me."

burninglegionx : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

burninglegionx

3 votes NegativePositive

59 days 16 hours ago...

inside job...? it may be.. or it may not be.

but one thing is clear: The US government and NIST is not doing a great job with the investigations.

Tada : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

Tada

4 votes NegativePositive

59 days 15 hours ago...

TheTamster: Here is what you do. You grab a kid. Put the cutter to his or hers throat and then yell "I`LL KILL THIS KID IF YOU DON`T DO WHAT I SAY!". This will scare people fast and you then use that fear to gain control over them, herd them towards the back of the plane. When people are scared they tend to only focus on themselves and what can happen if they try and jump the guy. Had it not been on an airplane and given longer time, someone would probably get enough of the hostages to jump the hijackers at once.

People think that as long and they obey, they can get out of it alive. They probably didn`t know that the hijackers goal was to kill everyone, normal hijackers use the passengers as hostage in order to make demands. Had they know that they were all going to die, they would probably have jumped the hijackers.

Also most people don`t know that box cutters are weak and made to be poor weapons.

NYCJockCub : LVL 42: VP 5: said:

NYCJockCub

3 votes NegativePositive

59 days 15 hours ago...

Not convinced it was an inside job, and the nuttiness of the "Truthers" movement doesn`t help.

BUT, I do agree that the US investigation into the entire affair is poor at best. AND, I am inclined to agree that the Bush administration has at least passive complicity, which is almost as bad as direct involvement.

Dweebster : LVL 16: VP 2.5: said:

Dweebster

4 votes NegativePositive

59 days 14 hours ago...

@Tamster: Get an education, learn English, and stop convincing yourself that you have any common sense at all.

I am not going to post anything beyond this one comment, because this is the internet, but just to point out the problem with your `common sense`: the people on the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania did fight back, and that`s why the plane crashed in PA instead of hitting its target.

Dont_just_stare_at_it : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

Dont_just_stare_at_it

0 votes NegativePositive

59 days 12 hours ago...

There is no strong evidence that says that the physical events of 9/11 happened any other way then what we all saw. Why is it so hard to accept? There were no cruise missles, no jewish plots, no hidden explosives inside buildings to bring them down. Planes were hijacked and flown into buildings. People witnessed it with their own eyes.

HOWEVER..... who ordered the attack, and who paid for it all is anyones guess. Who has motive and the most to gain?

exploder : LVL 48: VP 5: said:

exploder

2 votes NegativePositive

59 days 11 hours ago...

"There is no strong evidence that says that the physical events of 9/11 happened any other way..."

Free fall speed. Straight into their own footprints instead of falling over. Conservation of momentum. "Why is it so hard to accept?"

"There were no cruise missles ... no hidden explosives inside buildings to bring them down."

Prove that, you have no evidence. No forensic analysis was done, no residues testing, etc. Almost certainly in direct violation of evidence laws and other procedures for investigating arson / terrorism. Don`t look, don`t see is more like it.

"Planes were hijacked and flown into buildings. People witnessed it with their own eyes."

People also witnessed explosions, including before the planes ever hit. And they witnessed the controlled demolition of building 7. And they witnessed 7+ years of lies and coverups afterwards.

Fuck, people witnessed Elvis coming down from spaceships too, and we know that`s bullshit. But they saw it, so it gets pretty hard to say sometimes. Who the hell knows what happened. We sure don`t. A real investigation would really help.

Arcturus519 : LVL 53: VP 5: said:

Arcturus519

-3 votes NegativePositive

59 days 11 hours ago...

Yes, but just some plans flying into the twin towers wasn`t enough. They had to collapse completely or America would forget about it in 2 weeks.

So in order to make sure they fell down after the plans hit... conspiracy is born.

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