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The Cost of War

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  • Date 7/3/2008 11:35:57 PM
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tha_help : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

tha_help

Hidden (Show Comment) -20 votes

95 days 13 hours ago...

Answer?!
Elect Obama

oddjob458 : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

oddjob458

Hidden (Show Comment) -17 votes

95 days 12 hours ago...

This war is expensive, but it does not cost 262.8 billion dollars a year to run. My figure is based upon their 720 million dollars per day times 365 days. I dont know where they got their figure for the cost of war. Its the only figure they don`t explain.

tokentiki : LVL 47: VP 5: said:

tokentiki

26 votes NegativePositive

95 days 12 hours ago...

^ electing anyone isn`t going to help bro. Havn`t you heard of Congress?

DragonHighlord : LVL 14: VP 2.3: said:

DragonHighlord

14 votes NegativePositive

95 days 11 hours ago...

It seems most if not all the politicians want to goto war, even if they don`t outright say it...

pokyme : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

pokyme

17 votes NegativePositive

95 days 1 hour ago...

the states is fucked up

demontrace : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

demontrace

15 votes NegativePositive

95 days ago...

I`m still more of the mentality that if someone invades us, I`ll gladly pick up a gun and fight off invaders. If we want to go attack another country for oil, or because of some political agenda, let the politicians go fight for it.

Quit wasting our money while you`re at it.

fishfingers : LVL 40: VP 4.8: said:

fishfingers

18 votes NegativePositive

95 days ago...

Does this take into account the profit made from stealing oil??

i.dunno : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

i.dunno

0 votes NegativePositive

95 days ago...

yea im with oddjob on this one... i want to know where they got the figures from... at the same time the U.S. are a few trillion in debt...

moink : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

moink

-5 votes NegativePositive

95 days ago...


Lame. I want my 90 seconds back.

Willing to take cheques...

ckyvick : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

ckyvick

5 votes NegativePositive

95 days ago...

waste as much money as possible, borrow as much money as possible, and fuck with the public for a long time throwing their economy into another great depression...once that is over we can convince people to give us more of their freedom because they think it will protect them.

Rifte : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

Rifte

16 votes NegativePositive

94 days 22 hours ago...

This site says the cost so far is $533 billion
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home
Other sites say its over 1 trillion.
According to wikipedia only 16 thousand insurgents have been killed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_conflict_in_Iraq_si
nce_2003
$500,000,000,000 / 16000 =$31,250,000 per insurgent killed

$31million to kill a guy, why not buy him and the rest of his country pizza?

Pharsical : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

Pharsical

19 votes NegativePositive

94 days 21 hours ago...

$3 trillion according to a Nobel-prize winning/Chief World Bank economist who wrote a book on it. A big part of the hidden costs are future health care of disabled and wounded vets. Many of the horrible injuries they survive from are incredibly debilitating and require expensive, long-term rehabilitations and treatments.

The Iraq war has extremely high casualty rates. While Republicans were mouthing off statistics about how safe Iraq is, and how benign the human toll is, they willfully ignore the fact that WW2 had around 2:1 ratio of wounded per fatality. This war has about 7:1 b/c of advances in battlefield medicine and logistics. But the number of injuries reported by the DOD only includes the number injured in combat, while the death toll includes both combat and non-combat deaths. It takes a lawsuit (FOIA) to get the larger number of total injuries.

Non-combat injuries are not regular on-the-job injuries unrelated to the war effort or b/c of dumb soldiers. They include automobile injuries that happen b/c soldiers are ordered to drive in the dead of night, through narrow (unlit, of course) streets, bombed streets, and/or difficult terrain b/c it`s just not safe to drive during the day. Injuries that happen when transporting troops from one place to another who wouldn`t have to be there otherwise, etc.

The higher costs usually include the lost income of those disabled and forced to scrape by on disability, whereas a whole and uninjured father or mother could have earned more and produced more for the economy. Remember the shortage of body armor and armored humvees? Those were decisions made to keep official costs down, trading better press for astronomically higher future health care costs for the now-disabled troops affected by them.

Operational waste: GAO`s revelation that several hundred vets are being hounded by the government to account for equipment lost during the attacks that injured them. Replenishment of vehicles is unnecessarily high b/c Bush & Co. left out the costs of maintaining new, expensive vehicles, so we buy new ones when current ones just need a bit of retooling to keep running. It`s about to get a whole lot more expensive as we have to buy new fleets b/c of this negligence (hidden, not likely to be found on any reports by this Administration).

A big chunk is the interest paid b/c this war has been funded with loans rather than using actual money so Republicans could keep their most powerful base less taxed. Another significant chunk is the fact that the upfront budgets will have to be readjusted for high inflation and higher cost-of-living.

The $3 Trillion by said economist Joseph Stiglitz is actually conservative. It does not include the economic slow-down of $1.5 trillion that is sure to come when companies have to cut production b/c U.S. consumers are too poor to buy at nearly the same rate they used to.

Operative1980 : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

Operative1980

2 votes NegativePositive

94 days 20 hours ago...

How much of that is the money the Soldiers get paid anyway?

Pharsical : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

Pharsical

3 votes NegativePositive

94 days 19 hours ago...

Chart of base monthly pay, based on Pay grade
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/militarypaycharts/l/bl05enbasepay.htm


Chart of pay grade, based on military rank:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0OXU/is_1_61/ai_n26760515


Don`t forget to account for taxes.

Convalescence69 : LVL 30: VP 3.9: said:

Convalescence69

3 votes NegativePositive

94 days 19 hours ago...

Ron Paul is the Christ of Sense and Reason

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