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John Shelby Spong, retired Episcopal bishop from Newark, N.J., talks about the church, control and the invention of heaven and hell. And his view of what God is.

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Danielnator : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

Danielnator

3 votes NegativePositive

541 days 9 hours ago...

Although it is a youtube embedded (sorry), this is not you tube so there shouldn`t be too many "true believers" denouncing this man.

redbaron13 : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

redbaron13

5 votes NegativePositive

541 days 5 hours ago...

Hell is definitely an invention of the church cause Jews don`t believe in it which means that neither did Jesus.

stbasdf : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

stbasdf

0 votes NegativePositive

540 days 13 hours ago...

this is how religion should be, if there is to be religion. it should be used to tell people what to do or subdue them, it should be to inspire people and give hope

leez : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

leez

3 votes NegativePositive

540 days 12 hours ago...

good video, nice to see an intelligent posting on spiked humor

OJX : LVL 44: VP 5: said:

OJX

9 votes NegativePositive

526 days 6 hours ago...

If all priests and bishops were like him, allowing other people to be like him, I would not have a big problem with religion.

manofwar : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

manofwar

0 votes NegativePositive

526 days 5 hours ago...

Sounds like a sect of Buddhsim mixed with some devotional aspects of Hinduism

kamikazedude : LVL 12: VP 2.1: said:

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3 votes NegativePositive

525 days 22 hours ago...

Respect to him for telling his real beliefs. Remember this is only his belief. Surely he will come under a lot of fire from fellow bishops. I am Athiest so i dont just disbelieve in heaven and hell but i dont believe in ANY bible. I love how to tells that religions are control systems which I have believed since age of 12. The worlds changing and people are "growing up".

Isnt it enough to see the garden is beautiful, without having to believe there are fairies at the end?

phierce : LVL 10: VP 1.9: said:

phierce

1 votes NegativePositive

525 days 18 hours ago...

This video proves that not all " christans " believe everything taught by the church or the bible. I believe in Jesus. That he existed. Not everything in the bible though. Christans say the bible is Gods word, only because it was inspired by holy spirit. So it`s not like God sat down and actually wrote it with a pen. Stuff like that as a christan makes me made cause it`s a false/truth. It`s only true if you have faith. Faith is based on the individual.

Flynn_2006 : LVL 42: VP 5: said:

Flynn_2006

0 votes NegativePositive

525 days 18 hours ago...

religion shouldn`t exist at all. when a person has his or her own spiritual experience is an journey between him or herself.

parinfinitygman : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

parinfinitygman

2 votes NegativePositive

525 days 17 hours ago...

Excellent, I have heard it said that we are not created in God`s image, rather he was created in in ours.

Stipoo : LVL 14: VP 2.3: said:

Stipoo

1 votes NegativePositive

525 days 17 hours ago...

Search `John Shelby Spong` on youtube and you will find lots.
Good stuff!

MANWHORE : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

MANWHORE

1 votes NegativePositive

525 days 15 hours ago...

This has been my own philosophy since the age of about 16years old. Feels nice to hear an old preacher speak the same thoughts.

thinkbolt : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

thinkbolt

-6 votes NegativePositive

525 days 14 hours ago...

But he still thinks "GOD" is real. Still things he`ll "share in god`s eternity." Just another fool. Just another liar.

Orbpael : LVL 24: VP 3.3: said:

Orbpael

-2 votes NegativePositive

525 days 13 hours ago...

God is overused. most people dont even know what god is.. If you disbeleave soemthing you dont eve freaking understand then yes your an impoverished ignorant thing. Same goes for beleif in something you dont understand.

Pick your polarity your still not getting it.

Thomas Aquinas : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

Thomas Aquinas

2 votes NegativePositive

525 days 11 hours ago...

@ thinkbolt

I think his definition of god is different.He said it himself that he doesn`t think of god as a `parent figure in the sky`. But rather always unfolding. I think he sees the unfolding universe as god and we`re all part of it, `sharing in its eternity`.

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