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A philosophical examination of various proofs for the existence of God - by Stefan Molyneux

posted by Drederick Tatum
5/1/2008 6:05:47 PM

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Drederick Tatum : LVL 47: VP 5: said:

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578 days 16 hours ago...

If you can`t wait for the end, there is no proof.

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exploder : LVL 47: VP 5: said:

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578 days 16 hours ago...

^ thanks

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tony : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

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578 days 12 hours ago...

the guys side commentary is somewhat annoying but the points he makes are really something to think about.

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assmaster : LVL 42: VP 5: said:

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578 days 11 hours ago...

The one point he left out is that God can`t be completely disproved. There could be a way to measure or prove God, and we just haven`t found out how yet. But everything he did say was well thought out and easy to understand. I would have to agree w/ everything he did say.

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Drederick Tatum : LVL 47: VP 5: said:

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578 days 11 hours ago...

Those that claim the existance of a god have the burden of proving that claim as well. Therefore disproving it is not needed. Go to 24:40 to see this arguement.

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Monster_z3ro : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

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578 days 11 hours ago...

WoW!...he just destroyed every Christian argument I`ve ever heard!...

Man 1
God 0

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kfox01 : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

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571 days 8 hours ago...

Immanuel Kant wrote "Prolegomena to any Future Metaphysics" in order to critique and set bounds for metaphysics. Whether or not God exists is a metaphysical argument; Kant addresses why it is a waste of time to argue the existence of God because anything outside of experience cannot be proved or disproved.

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d_ramirez07 : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

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571 days 8 hours ago...

One can use this guy`s very definition of God to disprove God`s existence. It is formally called "The Problem with Evil" and I would love to explain it but a quick Google search can do infinitely times better than I can. It deals with God`s properties of being Omniscient, Omnipotent, and Omni-benevolent (as stated in the video)...and proceeds to disprove each with "the problem of evil."
I suggest everyone look it up...you don`t have to believe it (obviously) but its really interesting stuff.

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jp_zer0 : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

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571 days 7 hours ago...

His definition of proof is ridiculous. He`s not having a scientific argument, he`s having a philosophical argument. Philosophy is not bound by the scientific method.

Make no mistake though, I`m the biggest atheist you can find, but that guy is a tool.

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torreshl76 : LVL 19: VP 2.8: said:

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571 days 6 hours ago...

Someone send this to Richard Dawkins!.

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moaks : LVL 7: VP 1.6: said:

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571 days 6 hours ago...

ok im 10 secs in and im out

go science

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Gambit Xe : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

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571 days 6 hours ago...

Scientific arguments are a form of philosophy, merely used for scientific methods. All scientific methods can be traced back to logic, which is essentially philosophy. Philosophical statements are made with premises, and can easily be proved false by a mere analysis of the argument form. If an argument holds true, it may not necessarily be true, but it means that it does fit certain argument forms such as modus tollens, modus ponens, constructive dilemma etc. All scientific proofs can be derived to logic and philosophy. For example:i) All rats are mammals i) All mammals have mammary glands therefore all rats have mammary glands. The basis of a scientific hypothesis is essentially founded on logic and philosophy. It wasn`t that long ago that science itself was considered a form of philosophy. All arguments made by this guy are correct, and have valid argument forms. I wouldn`t want to battle logic with this guy, he knows his shit.

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the_slick : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

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571 days 5 hours ago...

Lets make it simple... god does not exist...period.....

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lemmyrules : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

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571 days 5 hours ago...

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

A Documentary based on the world we live in today

Chapter I-Religion
Chapter II-9/11
Chapter III-Central Bank of America

Ignorance is never an excuse when enlightenment is refused.

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Weigrahf : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

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571 days 3 hours ago...

This guy doesn`t make sense. His analogies are too elemental almost childish. Thing is us humans want to think we know everything but I bet the reality is far more complex than we ever think.

"If God is all-knowing he can`t be all-powerful."

What if God decides to do nothing and let us be on our own?

One thing scientists fail at is not taking everything so literal.

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