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Cops on Third Watch talking about the death penalty.

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FYAD : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

FYAD

0 votes NegativePositive

180 days 15 hours ago...

Great show all around; Sully rules.

Violetninja420 : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

Violetninja420

4 votes NegativePositive

180 days 12 hours ago...

I just wish they`d stop with the bullshit excuse that the death penalty is a deterant...because it certainly is not.

Dark_Enigma : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

Dark_Enigma

0 votes NegativePositive

180 days 8 hours ago...

great show always had suspense

Aids_Sauce : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

Aids_Sauce

-1 votes NegativePositive

180 days 7 hours ago...

Awesome show, watch it every morning at 7am on A&E. Faith is absolutely correct in her statement! 5/5

EntropY* : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

EntropY*

6 votes NegativePositive

179 days 9 hours ago...

So, a convicted (and guilty) killer of 10 men, women and children (hypothetical) should, instead of the death sentance, get a free pass to all the rape, violence, and scumbaggery he wants (life imprisonment, nothing to lose, everything to gain), including the remote possibility of escape?

That`s a rather counter-active stance. I`d rather society`s gutterballers be put down than given a free ride.

It`s not about eye-for-an-eye, it`s about putting down the dogs that are too dangerous to keep in the pound.



EDIT: i suppose people who`ve never been to a prison might not understand the point here, prison doesn`t rehabilitate even half of the people that go in. Good people, or rebel kids, when they come out, they`re fine, they don`t want to go back. The hard hitters? They stay in, because they get a contained environment they can control, they can take over, and if they have a life sentance, what`s another death to them?

bushbasher85 : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

bushbasher85

1 votes NegativePositive

177 days 17 hours ago...

EntropY, the reason prison doesn`t rehabilitate prisoners is that it is not treated as a care unit of a hospital, or a place where prisoners are taught how to properly conduct themselves in public, or to get an education, instead in most cases, they are treated like shit by a society that forever condemns them for a crime they have committed. The public doesn`t want prisoners to be helped, they want blood, and when a prisoner is executed, it isn`t enough. So people try to pass laws to get rapists, not rapist killers, but just rapists executed and the same thing about drug dealers. When does it stop?
I believe that all violent offenders should be locked up, but if we believe that America is supposed to be, "SUPPOSED" to be the world shining beacon of peace, then you need to ask yourself, "How would that society treat its most depised members?" I personnally think that the death penalty is a crime against humanity. Although I will also say if someone brutally killed someone I loved I don`t know if I could answer that question the same way
Its a very complicated issue, every side has valid points to make, but we can not let our own thirst for vengence dictate our retribution.

One more question to those who support the death penalty, if someone you loved killed someone else and that person you loved got the death penalty, and they are guilty all the way, would you support your loved one being executed?

mooseman : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

mooseman

1 votes NegativePositive

176 days ago...

^thats all speculation

I believe people should go to prison for rehabilitation after a mistake, a lapse in judgment, to leave prison a better person. however if a person commits a crime so henious that they will never leave prison walls, there is no reason to keep them alive.

-it costs tens of thousands (50k+ yearly) to keep a person in prison, fed, with full medical benefits

-after taking so much away from society, they are getting free food, shelter, electricity, running water, indoor bathrooms, access to a gym, any (within reason) book they request. and in return... they give fuck all back, maybe rape someone. thats about it.

-if they will never get out of prison, why are we letting them live? there is no utilitarian point to it. thats like a farmer purposefully growing a crop he knows will die during the dry august heat.

-there is always a slim chance they escape prison, or in case of a cataclysmic event wheras society crumbles, what happens to these inmates? lock them in a cell to die? or let them free to roam with the rest of us.

-there is always a chance a person is wrongfully convicted, but if you`ll note, in states where the death penalty is in effect if often takes 10 years to get the person executed with all the appeals and such. so if a person is that unlucky... God had it out for them, otherwise they will always have legal recourse to try and justify his case

This isn`t revenge, locking a person in a prison cell until they die is just as bad as killing them 30 years earlier, its simply cheaper and better for society. Any repentance they need to make can be done in purgatory, its not society`s problem to deal with his soul, its his own.

Bluelight83 : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

Bluelight83

-1 votes NegativePositive

172 days 17 hours ago...

"-there is always a chance a person is wrongfully convicted, but if you`ll note, in states where the death penalty is in effect if often takes 10 years to get the person executed with all the appeals and such. so if a person is that unlucky... God had it out for them, otherwise they will always have legal recourse to try and justify his case"

Wrong.

Appeals dont go back and look at the facts of the case. That does not matter. They just make sure procedure was followed. They`re not going to go back and retest DNA, look again at the evidence to see if it fits, etc.

I`m against it because many innocents are released from prion through testing. Some are on death row where by a miracle, some guy is picked up for robbery and his DNA matches the very crime this guy is on death row for.

Until you can prove 100% that it was him, I am against it.

thrasymacus2000 : LVL 27: VP 3.6: said:

thrasymacus2000

4 votes NegativePositive

172 days 16 hours ago...

The cost of the appeals process as well as all the other litigious processes costs more than simply locking a person up for life. I know. Sounds bizarre. The way things are now, it`s more expensive to kill a person in prison than it is to simply feed and water water him til he dies(assuming the dude makes use of every available recourse to him, as instructed by his lawyer). Regardless of where you stand on the right or wrong of it, the "save money" argument doesn`t hold up. If it were cheaper I`d be pro death penalty. maybe.

MewMew : LVL 37: VP 4.5: said:

MewMew

0 votes NegativePositive

172 days 16 hours ago...

My favorite death on that show was when the character Alex dies by getting blown in half. Good show.

pud51 : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

pud51

1 votes NegativePositive

172 days 16 hours ago...

^ thrasymacus is completely right

Tajumera : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

Tajumera

0 votes NegativePositive

172 days 9 hours ago...

Wherever you stand on this, cost shouldn`t be a factor. Letting something like money influence your decision sounds pretty fucking twisted to me.

The death penalty will always be irreversible, there will always be innocents who are wrongfully imprisoned. For that simple reason alone, it should never be allowed.

The thing that really annoys me is that the death penalty is wrong, but the alternatives are very flawed. "Life" in prison rarely means life in prison. If you kill somebody, then you should spend the rest of your life in prison, no matter how rehabilitated you are. Only under certain circumstances should killing be allowed, like self defense.

leatherface259 : LVL 19: VP 2.8: said:

leatherface259

1 votes NegativePositive

172 days 4 hours ago...

I believe if there is a good portion of evidence that they commited a terrible crime then just kill the fuckers but if there is just a little of evidence give them life..But if the person has a past history of violence or criminal behavior I would also count that against them..But if they never got caught and I know the person who did it I would go after them if they did something to a family member or close friend you know a little "Punisher" action,a little vengeance

Ninjzz : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

Ninjzz

1 votes NegativePositive

171 days 22 hours ago...

The decades-long court saga of convicted rapist and killer Paul House took a dramatic turn Monday when a federal judge ordered the condemned man`s release from prison.

House has seen the precarious balance of justice since he was sentenced to death for the murder and rape of Carolyn Muncey in Union County, north of Knoxville, in 1985.

Muncey, a young mother of two, had disappeared while her children slept. Her bludgeoned body was found at the bottom of an embankment and her husband was the initial suspect.

But later, House, who had moved to Tennessee from Utah after serving time in jail for aggravated sexual assault, became the prime suspect and was arrested. He was sentenced to death in 1986.

Two decades later, DNA evidence — semen collected from Muncey`s nightgown and underwear — revealed House did not rape her. The DNA belonged to her husband.

The U.S. Supreme Court decided that the evidence was strong enough that a jury would not have convicted House.
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080408/NEWS0
3/804080371/1017/news01

Ninjzz : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

Ninjzz

1 votes NegativePositive

171 days 22 hours ago...

DNA Frees Death-Row Inmates
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0408_050408_tv_dna
death.html

After five years on Louisiana`s death row, Ryan Matthews received a second chance at life. He was exonerated last year with the help of DNA evidence.

"He was 17 years old at the time of his arrest and is borderline retarded," said Martha Kashickey, the public-education associate for the Innocence Project at Yeshiva University`s law school in New York City.

"Post-conviction DNA testing on the mask the perpetrator left at the scene both exonerated Matthews and revealed the identity of the actual perpetrator," Kashickey said from New York City

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