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TED Talks - Susan Savage-Rumbaugh

"Apes that write, start fires and play Pac-Man" - Savage-Rumbaugh asks whether uniquely human traits, and other animals` behaviors, are hardwired by species. Then she rolls a video that makes you think: maybe not. The bonobo apes she works with understand spoken English. One follows her instructions to take a cigarette lighter from her pocket and use it to start a fire. Bonobos are shown making tools, drawing symbols to communicate, and playing Pac-Man -- all tasks learned just by watching. Maybe it`s not always biology that causes a species to act as it does, she suggests. Maybe it`s cultural exposure to how things are done.

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ok123jump : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

ok123jump

4 votes NegativePositive

701 days 13 hours ago...

I have seen some great talks on TED... but this one was amazing.

Science 1,500,000,000 +1 -- Religion (has yet to score a point).

DOWNCAST : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

DOWNCAST

4 votes NegativePositive

701 days 9 hours ago...

TED speechs are amazing, and dam bonobos look alot like midgets .. O_o

Shibboleth : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

Shibboleth

7 votes NegativePositive

700 days 18 hours ago...

This video made me realize that it`s really not huge inherent advantages humanity has that makes us so unique.

It`s that we pass on culture better than any virus, and good ideas spread like the plague.

Tada : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

Tada

4 votes NegativePositive

699 days 21 hours ago...

The Bonobo is also known as Pygmy Chimpanzee, which is a much more common used name.

Haha I just figured out why humans have less hair than most apes. If you give a young ape a stick which burns he is going to find ways of playing with it, so a person with less hair, which I have found to be highly flammable, would probably get less burns and thus being more suitable to handle fire than a person covered in hair.

ok123jump : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

ok123jump

3 votes NegativePositive

699 days ago...

@Shibboleth

You`re absolutely right. The book "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn talks about this issue that you mentioned in great detail - about the good and the very bad features of us spreading our culture...

@Tada

That is a testable hypothesis, suitable to be called a scientific hypothesis. It may be that your suggestion has played some role in our lack of hair; however, I feel that our manufactured environments (with controlled temperatures) have lead to a loss of body hair because we do not have the need for an insulator to keep our bodies warm like apes do.

It may be that as we became more and more dependent on our own controlled environments, we used more fire and that is where your observation comes into play. It could have been a residual effect of controlling our environments or it could have been a stimulus unto itself - that, I think, is the real question.

landon11 : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

landon11

4 votes NegativePositive

693 days 22 hours ago...

OMG around 4:50 i did not see any bonobos, all i saw was a group of hairy men collecting wood.

Vizreel : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

Vizreel

9 votes NegativePositive

693 days 21 hours ago...

this COMPLETELY discredits christianity in which they say that animals have no soul... if you`re still a christian after you`ve seen this, then you`re a moron
HOORAH INTELLECT!

TheTamster : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

TheTamster

4 votes NegativePositive

693 days 20 hours ago...

^^ i was kinda think that, you`d think they`d be more documentrys on these bonobos because of how advanced they seem to be, whereas there hundreds of documentrys on apes and monkeys.

ok123jump : LVL 36: VP 4.4: said:

ok123jump

2 votes NegativePositive

693 days 20 hours ago...

@TheTamster

You`re right, it`s a bit strange. It may be that Susan S-R`s work is pioneering work in Cultural Learning and we will start to see more and more about this. I don`t know... Good observation.

+1 vote from me.

hardharry : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

hardharry

1 votes NegativePositive

693 days 20 hours ago...

ou ou, ah ah, ee ee ee !!!!

stbasdf : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

stbasdf

1 votes NegativePositive

693 days 17 hours ago...

it might be because the bonobos live in a smaller area and maybe have a smaller population, i`m just guessing i don`t know much about them. also i thought the congo area is pretty dangerous because of constant civil war, so researchers probably don`t go there as much. the only thing i knew about bonobos before watching this was that they like to have lots of sex and are a part of the apes. didn`t know they had this much learning ability. while watching this i do wonder if they`re happy though, cause they have to live in the facility and when they go out they have to wear leashes. or maybe it`s safer for them? and they get better care?

stndspec : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

stndspec

2 votes NegativePositive

693 days 14 hours ago...

edge of my seat when mommy was trimming baby.. So she`s the new Jane Goodall? right on, and I`m even more impressed!

eNigma333 : LVL 14: VP 2.3: said:

eNigma333

2 votes NegativePositive

693 days 13 hours ago...

I wonder who thought us PacMac 100`000 years ago .)

unknowndesi : LVL 19: VP 2.8: said:

unknowndesi

-1 votes NegativePositive

693 days 12 hours ago...

BUT CAN A BONOBO DRIVE A BMW

oxdeltaxo : LVL 29: VP 3.8: said:

oxdeltaxo

2 votes NegativePositive

693 days 11 hours ago...

@eNigma333

The real beast in dark which stalked us earlier in human history give us the genetic instinct to run away from a potential, if even simulated, threat.....while collecting little dots.

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