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In the mid-1990s, a team of American science students took on the might of the Las Vegas casinos, and came home with millions of dollars. Hardworking engineering students during the week, they became high-rolling gamblers by the weekend and proved that, in one game at least, the house doesn't always win. The game was blackjack, and the students were from the world-renowned Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). Their audacious winnings marked the climax of an arms race between casino and player that began 40 years earlier with maths professor Edward Thorp. He realized that the one feature of blackjack that made it different from other casino games also made it possible to beat.

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  • Date 9/23/2007 2:48:28 AM
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PCGamer91 : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

PCGamer91

55 votes NegativePositive

778 days 22 hours ago...

I don't understand why Casinos can kick out individual card counters. Not like they are acctually cheating just using their superior intellect to figure out the probabilities of winning the hand. Being intelligent shouldn't be against the rules imho.

Cobra_Commander : LVL 34: VP 4.2: said:

Cobra_Commander

31 votes NegativePositive

778 days 18 hours ago...

They're pretty much saying: You're good at our game, and this game is about the HOUSE winning, not you. So get the fuck out.

It's impossible to cheat by doing something in your mind. Cheating and card counting have NOTHING to do with each other, unless the counting involves on-hand electronics.

These peice of shit casinos are just sore losers. Makes you wonder why anyone would go... you actually manage to get good at winning, and they kick you out, you can't beat them at their game because they end the game the second they arn't dominating. Like spoiled children really.

Gnjz : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

Gnjz

6 votes NegativePositive

778 days 18 hours ago...

I <3 Geniuses.

moth34 : LVL 32: VP 4.1: said:

moth34

17 votes NegativePositive

778 days ago...

What I found especially funny is that the facial recognition software was most likely programmed by the very type of people who presented the problem for the casinos in the first place.

I guess there's always different ways to make money off of the greedy.

Vizreel : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

Vizreel

1 votes NegativePositive

777 days 14 hours ago...

Haha, I love it when people get crossed at you for winning due to game flaws. It's no fun to play a game without "cheating", and that's a fact.

Pawel_Pwns3 : LVL 39: VP 4.7: said:

Pawel_Pwns3

13 votes NegativePositive

777 days 11 hours ago...

that was brilliant thanks for that jonas 22!

fattam : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

fattam

2 votes NegativePositive

777 days 10 hours ago...

A good doco! Cheers!

Enthasius : LVL 38: VP 4.6: said:

Enthasius

3 votes NegativePositive

777 days 7 hours ago...

Reminds me of something a workmate told me. He's a bit of a slot machine/fruit machine fan, and frequents any place that has a few.

One time, he pulled a double jackpot on one machine, and started making some money on a second one when the security there essentially threw him out before he could collect his winnings on the second machine. He took it up with the police, but they claimed that the security had every right to do what they did, stating the security "removed him from the premises since he was being aggressive".

Makes you wonder why anyone gambles really, as all these companies are just there to make money, not to run a fair game. Sure, one or two might win, but some fifty others lose their cash while the casino collects about forty-five of those losers' cash, the rest goes to the winners.

Gixxer : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

Gixxer

5 votes NegativePositive

777 days 6 hours ago...

Good upload! Thanks for letting me watch. And indeed never go to a casino for winning money, unless you play poker.

There is another discussion: Why would poker be illegal? Because the government thinks it is a game of chance and be ignorend to the fact that skills is what makes you money! I hate people who tell me what do to or what not while they don't even understand what they are judging!

And then being a rebellion will only work in your disadvantage! Damn the democracy when the majoraty of voting people are ... not to bright!

benchpress200 : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

benchpress200

-2 votes NegativePositive

777 days 3 hours ago...

facial recognition? that's so fucking stupid, all the casinos have to do is burn a card during each deal like they do in poker

sturm666 : LVL 17: VP 2.6: said:

sturm666

2 votes NegativePositive

777 days 2 hours ago...

More proof that Vegas is only for losers and dreamers. They have an advantage, that's legal, but god forbid someone take a 1%-3% advantage, LEGALLY, and get fucked over?

Its like ticket scalpers. A popular event happens, you can't buy any tickets from anyone except Ticketmaster, who also sells to legal scalping businesses that jack the price up and get first dibs.

It's like pre-ipo's in stocks and insider trading, which apparently is legal.

Such shit.

Gaolo : LVL 25: VP 3.4: said:

Gaolo

2 votes NegativePositive

776 days 23 hours ago...

Obviously there are still a few solutions to face recognisition software. If I'm not mistake (I've never visited a casino), there hasn't been many more significant improvements to the software and what it does. Counters can obviously change how they look, which isn't very good, or wear disguises to cover their face like glasses. I might be underestimating the power of recognizition software.

Otherwise, counters can train and hire new people to use until they were put in the books. Also they could purposely lose big probability hands to get rid of some suspision.

Overall great upload! I found it very fun to watch and learned quite a bit from this. Maybe some REALLY low casinos like public ones this could work well... ahum.

Ashmai : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

Ashmai

2 votes NegativePositive

776 days 22 hours ago...

I would like to see them try to take that through a metal detector at an airport, with a turban wrapped around their head. (the one that the first son and father team came up with that goes around the waist... lol)

d1dgreat1 : LVL 35: VP 4.3: said:

d1dgreat1

3 votes NegativePositive

776 days 9 hours ago...

That's not a woman! That is a man, MAN!

Mezelf : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

Mezelf

3 votes NegativePositive

776 days 9 hours ago...

10 FUCKING YEARS IN PRISON ONLY CAUSE THE CASINO WOULD MAKE LESS PROFIT?!?!?! Prison will fuck up your life: You lose your job, you can't support your wife and children, your chances of landing a decent job dramatically decrease because people don't like hiring criminals, you get ass-raped in jail by the bigger criminals,...

"Land of the free" HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!

P.S.: That woman is ugly lol.

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