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Nonfalsifiable theories of creation, the *ugh* Intelligent Design movement and its political motivations, and examples of What Science Isn't.

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Crash9789 : LVL 49: VP 5: said:

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815 days 3 hours ago...

Again, very well written.

The greatest argument I ever heard for who created god was that time is not linear, so cause-and-effect have no relevance. Not only is that non-falsifiable but it shows how a person will try "reject [our] reality and substitute [their] own" just so their belief is enforced.
Besides, if you reject any thing as basic as cause-and-effect (the most logical structure I can think of) then you have to question everything you know, which includes what a book written 2000 years ago says.

As for the life is too complex to be random argument, I think that mainly comes from a misunderstanding of evolution. Because they don't believe it, they don't study it, and so they often say "screw you guys, I'm right you're wrong, you're going to hell".


On a side note, because a majority of Americans consider themselves Christian (even if they are not particularly moral) I think it will be a long time before any out-of-the-closet atheist will become president. (I realize that being president really has nothing to do with this topic, but elections were on my mind.)

amithar : LVL 33: VP 4.2: said:

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813 days 12 hours ago...

You know, I'd concede that there is a god and that he/she/they created the universe only if all religious people would admit that there is no way of knowing what god wants, that god in no way speaks to us and that all dogmatic scripture was just written by people. That way there could be no one who could say god wants this or god wants that and since there is no way of knowing what god wants you cannot say which religion is "right". However this would have the same affect as dismantling religion and so there is no way religious people would concede to this compromise. Just to be clear I am not atheist, if you can prove to me with reasonable probability that there is a god I will believe it. Until then however, I will believe whatever seems most probable. Or in a giant spaghetti monster, that works too. :) 5/5 << and I rarely give 5

sarysaied : LVL 21: VP 3: said:

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795 days 6 hours ago...

^^If God created the world why can't He speak to us? Also, are you saying you will believe in God if everyone believed in the same God? I agree that it would be nice if everyone believed the same thing (the Bible has a nice story about that too)

To the guy in the video what religious beliefs have been changed because of science? I don't feel that believing in God requires a person to make a really really huge leap of ever-changing faith, and the person has to reject evolution and rationale thought. Rather, I believe that accepting that we will never know everything is a pretty rationale thought and putting our faith in a creator is rationale.

And what point was he trying to make when he kept saying "God made it that way" and then going into further detail about the sun's physical nature. Of course God made it that way (assuming God created the sun of course). Science is just a tool of figuring out how God made this world so unique. If we figure how God set it motion then we can manipulate that motion. But again, we will never be able to know everything about that particular motion, it's never ending. I feel that this argument can strengthen any belief! Whether it's atheism or Christianity.

The Bible says God made humans the rulers of the Earth and new technologies only prove that we are.

On a side note these kinds of videos tend to get a lot of religion bashing comments so let me put in my two cents. Religion is a person's obligation to the creator (i.e. the spaghetti monster). That's all it is. And yes, people do use it to try and control people. But this doesn't mean religion is wrong. Next, many people claim that more blood has been spilled over religion than any other thing. It wasn't religion that was the problem, rather it was that people cannot accept that we are all different [i.e. terrorism, communism, atheism, and maybe one day Christianity (If so, I told you so)]

We will always find a reason to kill people (It's never ending)

inner : LVL 1: VP 1: said:

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795 days 6 hours ago...

God created the universe so we would have freedom of thought, which means trying to find God anywhere will result in no evidence, without evidence [of God] we have the freedom to believe anything we choose to believe, faith is required to believe in something you can prove to exist, by belief in Christ you are saved.

fdrazmataz : LVL 31: VP 4: said:

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768 days 4 hours ago...

If there was evidence for god's existence, people would have no choice but to believe. So it can be argued that he *left* no evidence, so as to leave the field open for faith. People with faith would then believe in him, people without would not.

Yet, without evidence like miracles, divine intervention or prophets, nobody would be *aware* of the need for faith.

So which is it? Is there evidence that would destroy freewill and make faith defunct? and if so where is it? or is there no evidence? and if so, why does anyone believe?

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